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[mells]

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Oh and just to mention that I did plenty of research reg fish, I just wanted soem advice NOT CRITISM.

OMG i can not believe i just read that. You must have not been doing enough research cause you would have known that with females under 4 in a tank will kill each other. I wouldn't even put 2 of my mellowist fb's together! I think also if you did the research you would be able to tell the difference from a female betta to a male PK. Its very obviose! The egg spot is very easy to see. I can not believe that you are not getting as much negative response as you really disserve. Also if you really thought she was a female betta why would you try to breed her? She obviosely from the photo is not plump with eggs. So even if you thought it was a female betta and really was a male pk you would have tryed to breed her when she was ready to breed. I doubt that you bought it as a "female betta" if it was a male pk. I've always thought that PK's were considerably more expensive than female bettas. And the lfs u bought it from would lose income]

I have never come across any information that states under 4 females, and they will kill each other.

I only researched the male crowntail and veiltail, as that it the only type of betta that I keep.

Its nice to hear that you think I diserve a lot more, I dont agree with that.

I never saw and egg spot on the plakat, and it showed the stripes before I introduced it into the spawn tank hence why ot was introduced.

The reason I wanted to breed my bettas is my business!

I dont really care what you doubt, Like I stated I did purchase it as a female betta, weather you believe me or not is your problem.

Why would I want to place two male bettas together, I wouldnt and havent achieved anything. The fact that you think I did it on purpose discusts me.

Mells

 

[wwestar2000]

I have never come across any information that states under 4 females, and they will kill each other.

I only researched the male crowntail and veiltail, as that it the only type of betta that I keep.

Its nice to hear that you think I diserve a lot more, I dont agree with that.

I never saw and egg spot on the plakat, and it showed the stripes before I introduced it into the spawn tank hence why ot was introduced.

The reason I wanted to breed my bettas is my business!

I dont really care what you doubt, Like I stated I did purchase it as a female betta, weather you believe me or not is your problem.

Why would I want to place two male bettas together, I wouldnt and havent achieved anything. The fact that you think I did it on purpose discusts me.

Mells

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1) Guess you didn't do enough research! Thats one of the first things i learned....
2)ok and........ If you did you would know what a female betta looked like. Crowntail or VT
3)guess what i do. Yeah you also thought what you did was right....... I think you should re-think that.
4)You never saw the eggspot?....That kinda means its not a female betta at least not one thats breeding age.
5)And i'll continue to not believe you.
6)The fact that you did it discusts me.
And the grrr smile is pretty much piontless when your responses are totally boguse.
WWESTAR2000
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P.s you said you saw the breeding lines? Yeah you probably saw horizantal lines... Which you would have known were stress lines if you done research.

 

[mells]

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1) Guess you didn't do enough research! Thats one of the first things i learned....
2)ok and........ If you did you would know what a female betta looked like. Crowntail or VT
3)guess what i do. Yeah you also thought what you did was right....... I think you should re-think that.
4)You never saw the eggspot?....That kinda means its not a female betta at least not one thats breeding age.
5)And i'll continue to not believe you.
6)The fact that you did it discusts me.
And the grrr smile is pretty much piontless when your responses are totally boguse.
WWESTAR2000
EDIT:
P.s you said you saw the breeding lines? Yeah you probably saw horizantal lines... Which you would have known were stress lines if you done research]

Hmm..... Well firstly I can hold my hands up and say I didnt do enough research, I belived I had, and Put it this way.... Il certainly be doing some more.
I have severel other fm bettas who have all shown the same stripes at spawning and that has went well.
Im not stating that what I did was right, I was at error, but not intentionally.
Guess you have never made a mistake.
I still have the reciept on the delivery note from the betta, and it states that the betta was a female, im not going to scan and upload it for you because you dont believe me- Nada- Like I said, dont believe me I dont give a ****.
Thats right I didnt do any research did I wwestar2000, and you would know!
Hmm.... I really want to waste my money on purposly killing my fish! (I dont think so!)

And the last thing that Im going to say on this is

I made a mistake, like no ones ever done it.

It will certainly be one that I will be preventing from happening again.

So go ahead slate me more!

 

[wuvmybetta]

I can not believe that you are not getting as much negative response as you really disserve.

wwestar, that proves that you are just trolling. Go do something else

 

[Naughtygirlrlw]

Hey guys, I know I haven't been here long but I just wanted to say something. Everybody makes mistakes...it wasn't done on purpose and I'm sure a lesson was learned. Life is too short to argue.

 

[Wisperian]

Awww mells sry about mr.bubbles and your plakat and please ignore all those rude comments that SOME PEOPLE posted...most of the people on the forum are nice so dont think we're a bunch of loser meanies and about the spawning...like wuv said, females can be very agressive and can kill their spawning partner...my female once bit onto my male's tail and kept holding on when the male went crazy around the tank and still held on when i tried to seperate them with a net...I hope you have better luck next time if you're planning to spawn again

wwestar2000: You.are.REALLY.pathetic you know? I know some 10 year olds that are way more mature than you are. What kind of person goes trolling around and flaming people because over some difficulty they had during their first spawning attempt? What kind of person yells at somene over a mistake many people have made.



Oh and just to mention that I did plenty of research reg fish, I just wanted soem advice NOT CRITISM.

OMG i can not believe i just read that. You must have not been doing enough research cause you would have known that with females under 4 in a tank will kill each other. I wouldn't even put 2 of my mellowist fb's together! I think also if you did the research you would be able to tell the difference from a female betta to a male PK. Its very obviose! The egg spot is very easy to see. I can not believe that you are not getting as much negative response as you really disserve. Also if you really thought she was a female betta why would you try to breed her? She obviosely from the photo is not plump with eggs. So even if you thought it was a female betta and really was a male pk you would have tryed to breed her when she was ready to breed. I doubt that you bought it as a "female betta" if it was a male pk. I've always thought that PK's were considerably more expensive than female bettas. And the lfs u bought it from would lose income.


Hm...under 4 females in a tank will kill each other? That is just really lame information. For YOUR info, my 2 mg females one is 1 year old the other 1 and a half get along perfectly well with each other and their kuhli tankmates. It is just really low of a person to give out false information that they probably just made up in their head to make someone sound stupid. and some females' eggspots cant be seen as easily as other females' eggspots even though if they're there. and unless you're an absoloute betta expert telling if a betta is a male plakat or a female betta isnt all that easy, females just have an egg spot and some shorter fins which sometimes barely make a difference when u compare them to each other. so if I were you, I'd keep my mouth shut. everyones made mistakes and its not like YOURE perfect I dont see you breeding your bettas with excellent success I've attempted to breed my bettas like 3 times and only 1 time was successful. Also, females dont have to be as plump as a marshmallow to be eggbound. And so what if mells wanted to breed bettas? There is absoloute no wrong in doing that if you have the time,right equipment and the knowledge you need. THis forum could really do without people like you

 

[Synirr]

You're one to talk, wwestar2000, what with the latest breeding net incident and all

Mells, I'm sorry to hear about your fish. It sounds like you did everything the best you could with the info you had and just made a simple mistake... it can happen to anyone. Don't let it get you down, and better luck next time

 

[Wisperian]

Yay you Synirr

 

[keith565]

Hi Guys.
i think some of you should refrain from keeping fighters for a while as i think the aggression and flaring has rubbed of on you
Mells has, from what i can read from all the posts, made a mistake. a genuine one. i have only had bettas for about 4 months now but have been keeping fish for over 30 years. i would perhaps have trouble distinguishing a pk from a female unless the female was plump and full of eggs.
we have fish shows in the UK and i have known people to put pk's in the female section and win. bear in mind here in some parts of the Uk we only have standards for the vt.
over the years i have made plenty of mistakes, most were stupid, easily thought out mistakes. but also made by being given bad or incorrect advice, both by so called experts but also by friends and my lfs.
i agree that mells should perhaps not have attempted to breed this pair as it seems evident the ?female/pk was not ready to breed but such harsh, upsetting criticism can only make mells feel even worse, even put mells off keeping fish all together, rather than constructive criticism which would help avoid a repeat and teach anyone reading this line how to avoid a similar mistake. but this is just my opinion.

 

[Kiarra]

Lesson learned, Mells. A hard lesson, but I'm sure you've learned it.

I believe you that the receipt says female. I also know that most pet store employees couldn't find their butts even with the whole store looking.

Females can most definitely kill a mate. It's just uncommon, and most incidents of a "female" killing a male are actually male Plakats. But it does happen. I had one male and one female turn psycho and tear each other's fins to pieces in the time it took for me to go have dinner. Both lived, but they wouldn't have if I hadn't come back. Most spawning pairs AREN'T that rough.

As for keeping under four females together...yeah, it can work, and they won't kill each other. But it depends on the females. 4 is a safer number than two or three, but two can work and so can three...if your females are mild enough. I recommend at least four so that there's coverage there for angry females.

Good luck, Mells, if you try it again, and feel free to PM me if you have any questions for future attempts. I'll answer any I can.