Please Help Me With Nitrates!

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sawickib

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They will not go down in my 55 gallon or my 75 gallon, done alot of water changes and cleaned up all the little poos and it still wont go down. Maybe clean my filters in the aquarium water? cant remember the last time i did but could this be the cause? No fish are dying but I dont want it to start happening.

Nitrates- between 80 and 160ppm
 
Test your tap water for nitrates?
 
You ought to be cleaning out your filters at least once a month anyway.
 
Tap is 0ppm filters were cleaned a month or a little more ago i think ill get on that but is that the sole problem?
 
What are your nitrates for the tank?
 
between 80-160 ppm cant really tell 100% i got it less darker but not by much
 
That's quite high, Normally you are 0-40, Maybe 60 at a push. How often do you do a water change?
 
Maybe go for 50% waterchanges now, See if you can lower it slowly over time.
 
well on he 75 two aqueons 55/75s, and my 55 has a aqua clear 50 and another aqueon 55/75 HOB
 
I believe TTA wants to know what brand of test kit you're using.
How well do you gravel vacuum?
 
API the ultimate freshwater test kit, liquid test tubes, and i do gravel vacuum, also sift through sand to get rid of debris, and my tanks are well under stocked in my opinion.
 
Something doesn't add up.
 
A few things could going on here:
 
1 - You are doing the tests wrong.  (Doubtful, given the tap water tests are 0ppm, but tank is 80-160ppm.)
2 - You are not doing the water changes you claim, or haven't been previously.  (possible, but only you know that.)
3 - You are grossly overfeeding your tank.  (more food means more waste, more waste means more nitrates.)
4 - You are getting a false reading on the test for some reason.
5 - Something surprising is in the substrate adding nitrates to the water that isn't in the tap.
6 - something I missed.
 
In theory, if you have 80 or 160 ppm of nitrate and you change 25% of the water and add water with 0 nitrate you should end up with 60 or 120 ppm. This assumes you test a short time after you have added back the water.
 
So all the possibilities that make sense to me are pointing towards the readings are not accurate (tester error would be included here). Unless you have a pretty high KH, persistently high nitrate results in some amount of nitric acid which could lower your tank's pH. Of course, in well buffered water you wont see this in a week.
 
The signs of nitrate poisoning are the same as they would be for nitrite. However, nitrate has a very difficult time passing across the gills into the bloodstream due the its size. It is similar the NH3 being able to (why it is so toxic to fish) and NH4 being too big and thus unable to. Unfortunately some can get in and when elevate nitrates are present, eventually you will see the symptoms. So if your fish are not at the surface gasping, they are not in immediate danger.
 
Gross overfeeding should leave a lot of gross looking mushy stuff in a tank and/or cause a bacterial bloom, so it probably isn't that?
 
I agree with eagle that things don't add up and I am sticking with not trusting the results for whatever reason. But to be sure, test the tank, change 50% and retest after the refill. If you don't see a clear big drop, I rest my case ;-)
 
Or the nitrates are even higher than 160 and off the scale... So they don't seem to change after a water change...

I believe a diluted test might be the only way to get a proper handle on where the levels really are, and to see if the water changes are having their prescribed effect.
 

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