Platys And Guppies

[OneOnion]

Can platys and guppies or platys and endlers crossbreed, and can they be in the same tank together? Thanks.

 

[kelly528]

Can platys and guppies or platys and endlers crossbreed, and can they be in the same tank together? Thanks.

Well as of yet there have been no 'pluppies' born to domestic aquaria, but guppies and endlers will readily hybridize and produce viable offspring... generally this is a no-no because Endlers are nearly extinct and preservation of the species is optimal, but they are pretty much all a fraction guppy by now...

 

[OldMan47]

Guppies and endlers can and will cross in the same tank. Neither one of them can cross with any of the Xiphophorus species such as swords and platies.

 

[OneOnion]

Ok. I won't put guppies with endlers, I'm just finding out which of those to put with platys for my stocking plan.

 

[OldMan47]

Either of them would be fine with platies, but don't expect to find many fry that way.

 

[Haych]

i have endlers with guppies, and i did have platys.

all get one fine, and the male endlers (dont have females) will try and hump the female guppies.

with regards to the "near extinct", i just ensure i wont sell on any, if born, fry

if they stay in your tank no issues

 

[OldMan47]

I am not suyre they are anywhere near extinct in the wild Haych and Kelly528. They are readily available in the US as pure wild types from both Swampriveraquatics and Tampafishman1 along with a large number of other registered small time breeders, like me. I have them coming out my ears so selling a few will not affect my numbers for more than a week or two. I intend to sell off as many adults as I can at the Circle City fish club auction in November and would have sold many last weekend at the Tri-city club auction in Peoria, but I needed to work the day of the auction. The Laguna de Los Patos original location is severely under the threat of having no surviving fish due to habitat destruction, but nearby small creeks have been found to contain the fish in large numbers by various collectors. The species definition of Poecilia wingei does not name the specific location as the deciding factor but the characteristics of the fish instead. Those fish were not collected at Cumana but at other locations, so an "endler" may or may not be the same thing as the recognized separate species. Meanwhile, those of us with "pure" natural fish and their progeny can claim class N endler status but it gets a bit shaky when we claim anything much more than Poecilia sp. with collection location information. I personally find it easy to tell my fish from almost any guppy or endler cross that I have seen but that does not make it a separate species that needs protection. It is no more or less than an admission that we can tell fish apart but do not know enough to determine their species really.

 

[hughessomefish]

oldman47 about how many tanks of endlers do you have?

 

[OldMan47]

Right now I have a 20H mthat has the original colony in it. There is a group in a 45 that has expanded to fill all of the tank space and another selected breeding group in a 29 that has also expanded to fill all available space. Each colony is a little different in its makeup. The first is a purely wild group, the second is a selection from the first to emphasize a particular look and the third is a refinement of the second. It was started by two males that matched my ideal and a couple of virgin females. It is a strong competitor for producing a nice lower red sword look and a sort of snake chest look like this guy, that got me started selecting breeders.

 

[Haych]

I am not suyre they are anywhere near extinct in the wild Haych and Kelly528. They are readily available in the US as pure wild types from both Swampriveraquatics and Tampafishman1 along with a large number of other registered small time breeders, like me. I have them coming out my ears so selling a few will not affect my numbers for more than a week or two. I intend to sell off as many adults as I can at the Circle City fish club auction in November and would have sold many last weekend at the Tri-city club auction in Peoria, but I needed to work the day of the auction. The Laguna de Los Patos original location is severely under the threat of having no surviving fish due to habitat destruction, but nearby small creeks have been found to contain the fish in large numbers by various collectors. The species definition of Poecilia wingei does not name the specific location as the deciding factor but the characteristics of the fish instead. Those fish were not collected at Cumana but at other locations, so an "endler" may or may not be the same thing as the recognized separate species. Meanwhile, those of us with "pure" natural fish and their progeny can claim class N endler status but it gets a bit shaky when we claim anything much more than Poecilia sp. with collection location information. I personally find it easy to tell my fish from almost any guppy or endler cross that I have seen but that does not make it a separate species that needs protection. It is no more or less than an admission that we can tell fish apart but do not know enough to determine their species really.

this is what i was told in my thread showing my stocking

admittedly, it was the first time i had heard such dribble, but thought they obviously knew something i didnt!