Plants Debris. ...which Fish Eats The Small Dead Pieces Of Plants Whic

[crunch7]

My DIY C02 just started yesterday after a week ( i thot it will never start) so i m getting one bubble per two to three seconds in the bubble counter. Plus will be precision vaccummin again in some time (when i get time that is). the crypts,hydrilas and the lilies are shedding a lot so its a lot of debris now. I hope there is new growth.

 

[coldcazzie]

For a tank that size and with the plants I can see inthe picture, I would not bother with actual C02. If you have a bubbler oxigenating the water or a similar device, just set it to low during the daytime hours (lights on), also make sure that the filter outlet doesn't disturb the water too much. This will allow the levels of natural CO2 created by your fish to rise, the plants in turn will feed on this and produce Oxigen through photosynthesis. Just remember to turn the bubbler back to full blast when the lights are off!!
Also, if you do this you need to monitor the fish and if you notice them getting stressed discard this idea altoghether.

Firstly, the amount of co2 produced by fish respiration is negligible when you are considering the ppm that we like to aim for in a high tec planted tank. Secondly, I believe you are confusing high co2 levels with low oxygen levels. By reducing surface agitation you reduce o2 saturation in the water. In the circumstances you describe this will be the only effect. It will not increase the amount of co2 in the water by any significant amount and certainly not to 30ppm. The distress caused to your fish will be due to low oxygen levels, not high co2 levels.

However Excel or DIY co2 would work, but crunch you will have to keep a sharp lookout for algae as DIY and liquid can both cause unstable co2 levels which is at least as bad as low co2.

To answer your question, the responsibility to clean your tank falls to you. If there are bits of plant floating around it's because you need to clean them. It's bad practice to buy a fish to solve a problem that you can fix simply by looking after the tank better.

 

[crunch7]

no problems of algea n oxygen , fish are happy too. i m thinking of getting one zebra cichlid to increase the poo level.

 

[Livewire88]

Why not get a Great White shark and put him in your tank?

He will eat your leaves and poo a lot :0)

 

[crunch7]

not the great white but a walrus maybe

 

[Dagon]

For a tank that size and with the plants I can see inthe picture, I would not bother with actual C02. If you have a bubbler oxigenating the water or a similar device, just set it to low during the daytime hours (lights on), also make sure that the filter outlet doesn't disturb the water too much. This will allow the levels of natural CO2 created by your fish to rise, the plants in turn will feed on this and produce Oxigen through photosynthesis. Just remember to turn the bubbler back to full blast when the lights are off!!
Also, if you do this you need to monitor the fish and if you notice them getting stressed discard this idea altoghether.

Firstly, the amount of co2 produced by fish respiration is negligible when you are considering the ppm that we like to aim for in a high tec planted tank. Secondly, I believe you are confusing high co2 levels with low oxygen levels. By reducing surface agitation you reduce o2 saturation in the water. In the circumstances you describe this will be the only effect. It will not increase the amount of co2 in the water by any significant amount and certainly not to 30ppm. The distress caused to your fish will be due to low oxygen levels, not high co2 levels.

However Excel or DIY co2 would work, but crunch you will have to keep a sharp lookout for algae as DIY and liquid can both cause unstable co2 levels which is at least as bad as low co2.

To answer your question, the responsibility to clean your tank falls to you. If there are bits of plant floating around it's because you need to clean them. It's bad practice to buy a fish to solve a problem that you can fix simply by looking after the tank better.

You are partly right and this can happen indeed, but it falls to the number of fish in the tank and the size of the actual tank. It does work for some people and it does not always stress the fish which is what everyone seems to think.
The Cabomba-like plants I can see in the picture do not need 30ppm of CO2, in fact they can thrive on 10-15ppm or even less easily, this just means they will grow slower.

Using the correct amount of Excel you will not get any algie, in fact Excell is becoming rapidly famous for its ability to get rid of several common types of plant algie; this is because it contains all the compunds that plant actually benefit from CO2 already "digested", so it is not CO2 per-se. It is in the processing of raw CO2 that algie thrives, hence, remove the CO2 injection/process and algie simply dies for lack of nutrients. With Excel you are feeding your plants with the compunds needed out of the "CO2 process" while starving the algie that thrives on the actual process.
This is the reason why you can still use traditional CO2 in conjunction with Excel if you wish (like with plants that demand a lot of CO2).

70%of the time the cause for most algie in normal conditions is the level of lighting used in the tank, which again, the plants Crunch has in his tank don't need a lot.

 

[crunch7]

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