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I'm currently looking for a female Betta to pair with one of my males.
I'm going to try breeding them in about 1-2 months, but first I need to find the right female.
The male is a red Delta tail.
Because I'm looking to breed, what type of female should I use to produce the nicest looking fry?
Should I find another Delta tail, or should I go for a Super Delta, Halfmoon etc?
And colour wise, should I choose a red, or go for something different, but still matches nicely?
 
what color fry do you want, and what kind of finnage would you want. if you want many colors and big finnage i would go with an HM marble fm
 
Well I want some variety. I don't just want all the fry to be red etc..
If I were to choose a marble, what do you think would be a nice colour?

As for finnage, I don't mind whether they are Delta tails or Halfmoons, I'm happy with either. If I cross the two would I get half and half of each tail type, or...? :huh:
 
I think the red gene is dominant? so eithe rway you will get mainly reds, tali wise, i'd get a HM if you can, this will give you Super Deltas/Deltas :)
 
Ok thank you!
I didn't know that the red gene was dominant :p
So if I was to get a different colour female (I'll try get a HM) would the fry still be red anyway?
 
HM is polygenic (MULTIPLE genes involved) and even HMs don't breed true (they make lots of Deltas and Super Deltas... From what I've been hearing from breeders MORE of them than anything else... True HMs will be the minority of your offspring even with 2 HM parents)

From the breeders I've been talking to, they say VT us dominant to pretty much everything else. So offspring will likely consist of mostly VTs and an occasional Delta or SD... At least theoretically. And really there isn't much demand for the offspring you'd end up with (numbers wise anyway) so you'll have to be prepared to do some heavy culling or try your best to give them away.

The smart money (no one gets rich doing this) is on getting a fish with a unique and special trait and attempting to multiply it, or combine that special feature with something else.

I'm currently importing a couple "BIG EAR" Betta (extra long pectorals) to try and enhance my whites with it, as well as helping my friend develop CT Big Ears (he is hoping for "FW lionfish" look out of it) it should be interesting

But the trick (from a PRACTICAL standpoint anyway) is what you are going to do with lots and lots of fish, many of which will be "defective" (because they do produce birth defects... Among other issues) or simply "not marketable". Which means your stuck with them... Which is either a lot of wasted fish from flushing (no offense) or a whole lot of water changes!

It's fun and interesting, but you always have to try to keep your mind on the bigger picture. Let's be honest, there is No SHORTAGE of Bettas! Which is why if your going to make more of them, we have to be responsible enough to either a) breed a specific kind that you happen to love b) a variety that is in demand so that you can "move the extras" or c) breed something rare or uncommon because it is the oddity. Or D) ALL of the above.

Not trying to talk you out of it, because it is fun and cool watching fry grow or fish do their mating displays, but it can also be hard work and heartbreaking if you have a sudden fry die off, or the male KILLS the female (or vice versa... One of my white females killed my black/Melano rose fin HM male recently, albeit in an unconventional way) it can be a great big heart breaking headache as well, so it definitely takes the sting out to have a plan AnD a back-up plan or two... Just in case they go "off script" at sone point; because REALY, how often do things ever go "according to plan"?

I'd get a dragon or pastel just to work with something just a little different
 
HM is polygenic (MULTIPLE genes involved) and even HMs don't breed true (they make lots of Deltas and Super Deltas... From what I've been hearing from breeders MORE of them than anything else... True HMs will be the minority of your offspring even with 2 HM parents)

From the breeders I've been talking to, they say VT us dominant to pretty much everything else. So offspring will likely consist of mostly VTs and an occasional Delta or SD... At least theoretically. And really there isn't much demand for the offspring you'd end up with (numbers wise anyway) so you'll have to be prepared to do some heavy culling or try your best to give them away.

The smart money (no one gets rich doing this) is on getting a fish with a unique and special trait and attempting to multiply it, or combine that special feature with something else.

I'm currently importing a couple "BIG EAR" Betta (extra long pectorals) to try and enhance my whites with it, as well as helping my friend develop CT Big Ears (he is hoping for "FW lionfish" look out of it) it should be interesting

But the trick (from a PRACTICAL standpoint anyway) is what you are going to do with lots and lots of fish, many of which will be "defective" (because they do produce birth defects... Among other issues) or simply "not marketable". Which means your stuck with them... Which is either a lot of wasted fish from flushing (no offense) or a whole lot of water changes!

It's fun and interesting, but you always have to try to keep your mind on the bigger picture. Let's be honest, there is No SHORTAGE of Bettas! Which is why if your going to make more of them, we have to be responsible enough to either a) breed a specific kind that you happen to love b) a variety that is in demand so that you can "move the extras" or c) breed something rare or uncommon because it is the oddity. Or D) ALL of the above.

Not trying to talk you out of it, because it is fun and cool watching fry grow or fish do their mating displays, but it can also be hard work and heartbreaking if you have a sudden fry die off, or the male KILLS the female (or vice versa... One of my white females killed my black/Melano rose fin HM male recently, albeit in an unconventional way) it can be a great big heart breaking headache as well, so it definitely takes the sting out to have a plan AnD a back-up plan or two... Just in case they go "off script" at sone point; because REALY, how often do things ever go "according to plan"?

I'd get a dragon or pastel just to work with something just a little different
Thank you for all of this ^
I have experience with breeding fish so I know that it can't all be good - I've had a bunch of fry die off suddenly for no apparent reason :/
I have all the things needed - homes, food etc so that's not an issue.
As for homes to sell them to, I already know a few fish shops that will happily buy them, and also many private buyers. If I'm unable to sell some, they'll still have homes with me as I have enough space and time for them :)

I'm going to try get a marble HM, or maybe just a white female.. Sound alright?
 
I didn't mean to sound discouraging, its just that most people don't put a whole lot of forethought into it, and end up getting in way over their heads fast. It's totally up to you what to get or breed, and in te end it's you that looks after them so it is helpful to get what YOU like having around the most. :)

Definitely keep us posted with your progress :)
 
I didn't mean to sound discouraging, its just that most people don't put a whole lot of forethought into it, and end up getting in way over their heads fast. It's totally up to you what to get or breed, and in te end it's you that looks after them so it is helpful to get what YOU like having around the most. :)

Definitely keep us posted with your progress :)
It's fine, I totally understand what you are saying :)
I'll definetly update what's happening when I get everything sorted.
 
I'm with lilfishie, I'm sure red is dominant :)


Well i dnt know u now
Im studying and have studied genetics before and its normaly the darker colours to be dominant but cld be wrong

Just stay away from blacks n dark blues lol
I should probably read up on Betta genetics :lol:
I was thinking a lighter colour female anyway, I just have to find one - the lfs's near me are rubbish when it comes to Bettas..
 

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