Overstocking On Fish?

[wflash3]

Let me know if this would be to much for a 30 gallon high tank:

2 False clowns
1 Pygmy Angel
1 Lyretail Anthias
1 Yellow Goby
1 Rainfords Goby
1 Scooter blenny
1 Six line Wrasse

would this be over stocking?, and note that the biggest fish in this tank is only 2 inches which is the anthias. Everything else is 1.5 inches or less.

thanks, flash

 

[scorphonic]

If they are the adult sizes you posted then I'd say that you are overstocking. This adds to 12.5 inches of fish in total in a 30 gallon.

There is a way to figure this out but a rough guide for marine tanks is 1" of fish per 5 gallons.

 

[enjoiskater158]

False clowns - 3.5"
Pygmy Angel(what species) - 4"
Lyretail Anthias get - 5"
Yellow(clown?) Goby gets - 1.5"
Rainfords Goby gets - 2.5"
Scooter blenny - 3"
Six line Wrasse - 3"

I personally think you are overstocked
Are you going to be having a sump that might increase you water volume to make it a little less overstocked?
Althought I wish Lyretail Anthias only got 2", I'd have a nice school of them in my tank lol

 

[wflash3]

False clowns - 3.5"
Pygmy Angel(what species) - 4"
Lyretail Anthias get - 5"
Yellow(clown?) Goby gets - 1.5"
Rainfords Goby gets - 2.5"
Scooter blenny - 3"
Six line Wrasse - 3"

I personally think you are overstocked
Are you going to be having a sump that might increase you water volume to make it a little less overstocked?
Althought I wish Lyretail Anthias only got 2", I'd have a nice school of them in my tank lol

well all my fish are half those sizes, they are young so once the anthias gets other i will have to take him out, but for right now i thought i will be ok. and yes i am looking into getting a sump soon.

flash

 

[SkiFletch]

Not only are you overstocked but you're keeping two very hard fish to keep. Rainsford gobies and scooter blennies are exceptionally difficult to get to take prepared foods. I've seen countless numbers of both of these fish wither away over a period of weeks or even a few months and starve to death because the tank they live in is too small to support their growth.

 

[Miss Wiggle]

well all my fish are half those sizes, they are young so once the anthias gets other i will have to take him out, but for right now i thought i will be ok. and yes i am looking into getting a sump soon.

flash

you should always work out stocking based on the adult sizes of your fish, no good doing it on the size that they are now it will inevitably lead to overcrowding

 

[callell]

How old is you tank

Most of the fish listed required specilised diets or a mature tank

The Anthias requires a larger tank than 30g

 

[wflash3]

Not only are you overstocked but you're keeping two very hard fish to keep. Rainsford gobies and scooter blennies are exceptionally difficult to get to take prepared foods. I've seen countless numbers of both of these fish wither away over a period of weeks or even a few months and starve to death because the tank they live in is too small to support their growth.

Believe it or not both my rainsford and scooter blenny eat the mysis shrimp i supply in my tank. My tank is 4 months old, everyone in there eats great and is always active, had one fish die since a i started and that was because he got stuck by the heater and burned himself (i moved the heater now).
And ive also had the scooter blenny since i started, 4 months now hes been in my tank and he is always healthy eating all the time.

flash

 

[callell]

You are still overstock thought

 

[wflash3]

And to add to this subject i did things kind of different. I based my fish on where they like to stay, My free swimming active fish are the clowns, yellow face pygmy, 6 line wrasse and the anthias, and since i dont have too much live rock, the fish that like to stay near the bottom, clown goby, rainsford, scooter. So its 5 swimming up top and 3 on bottom. I know wastes may be a problem but adding a sump once i move to college will surely help...

flash

 

[SkiFletch]

Well, just dont say we didnt tell you so if/when cyanobacteria comes a knockin

 

[scorphonic]

I'm a bit bemused with your attitude. You supplied the list of fish that you have in your 30g and asked us to tell you if you are overstocked yet you have continually justified the fish type and number in your tank. Why then did you ask for help?

We have all told you that you are over stocked and this cannot be justified by saying that some fish live at the bottom and some live elsewhere in the tank. I'm sure you are well aware that overstocking means how much space the fish require to be happy and relaxed.

Even now, with the sizes you supplied, you are overstocked. What will happen when the fish grow??

So let me conclude and answer your question:

Let me know if this would be to much for a 30 gallon high tank:

2 False clowns
1 Pygmy Angel
1 Lyretail Anthias
1 Yellow Goby
1 Rainfords Goby
1 Scooter blenny
1 Six line Wrasse

YES!!!

 

[wflash3]

I'm a bit bemused with your attitude. You supplied the list of fish that you have in your 30g and asked us to tell you if you are overstocked yet you have continually justified the fish type and number in your tank. Why then did you ask for help?

We have all told you that you are over stocked and this cannot be justified by saying that some fish live at the bottom and some live elsewhere in the tank. I'm sure you are well aware that overstocking means how much space the fish require to be happy and relaxed.

Even now, with the sizes you supplied, you are overstocked. What will happen when the fish grow??

So let me conclude and answer your question:

Let me know if this would be to much for a 30 gallon high tank:

2 False clowns
1 Pygmy Angel
1 Lyretail Anthias
1 Yellow Goby
1 Rainfords Goby
1 Scooter blenny
1 Six line Wrasse

YES!!!

bro, i am listening to what your saying, trust me, and i know how experienced ski is as a hobbiest as well as all you other people. I was just telling you my situation besides telling you my number of fish in the tank....I do understand i am overstocked and i would like to do something about it, so which fish should i take out? the anthias? being that it is the much larger fish in the tank? it just bugs me that i made a mistake like this...its hard to swallow

P.S. sorry for my seemingly attitude of ignorance

flash

 

[Lynden]

One inch per five gallons? Who the hell came up with that?

Honestly, it's not that you will have too many fish - it's that you may have picked the wrong kind of fish. Anthias: fast and should be in schools; Scooter Blenny: obligate microfauna eater. Those two right there will spell trouble for a 30 gallon tank.

Remove those two, and you will doubtedly have any problems.

I have an old book at my house that recommends over ten fish - some are medium-sized - for a 30 gallon tank. If anything, with our powerful, modern protein skimmers, deep sand beds, refugiums, phosphate removers, et cetera, our ability to put fish in a tank should have increased, not decreased.

-Lynden

 

[steelhealr]

Why do you want a high vs a low tank? SH