Oooo Yeah New Tank

[dan the man]

SO IVE JUST GOT THIS AMZING NEW SETUP GOT A 100 LITRE AQUARIUM, AND A FEW FISH TO START WITH

MY FISH

- 15 MALE GUPPIES
- 12 GLOWLIGHT TETRAS
- 3 RAINBOW SHARKS
- 2 RED FINNED BLACK SHARK
- 2 BRISTLE NOSE PLECOS
- 2 ALBINO OSCARS
- 2 STRIPED CATFISH
- 3 BLUE SEVERUMS

THATS ALL FOR A FEW WEEKS BUT PLANNING ON GETTING A FEW MORE

ANY IDEAS ?

 

[Zenki]

SO IVE JUST GOT THIS AMZING NEW SETUP GOT A 100 LITRE AQUARIUM, AND A FEW FISH TO START WITH

MY FISH

- 15 MALE GUPPIES
- 12 GLOWLIGHT TETRAS
- 3 RAINBOW SHARKS
- 2 RED FINNED BLACK SHARK
- 2 BRISTLE NOSE PLECOS
- 2 ALBINO OSCARS
- 2 STRIPED CATFISH
- 3 BLUE SEVERUMS

THATS ALL FOR A FEW WEEKS BUT PLANNING ON GETTING A FEW MORE

ANY IDEAS ?

i see oscar food, 5 not happy sharks and alot of mishap coming. Defenitly overstocked. NO MORE FISH you need to get rid of all your sharks your oscars and atleast one school of fish 100 litres is what 25ish gallons?

 

[snazy]

The sharks will kill each other, even if you had the space for them.
Severums grow massive, you can't even house one on it's own, so will the the oscars.
The striped catfish are also too big for this tank.
You should be only left with the 15 guppies in a tank that size, taking into account that once you put gravel and decorations you probably have no more than 80 litres tank. So either the tetras or the guppies and maybe the 2 bristlenose plecos, although they add quite a big bioload to the tank.
The current stocking is an inevitable disaster to happen.

SO IVE JUST GOT THIS AMZING NEW SETUP GOT A 100 LITRE AQUARIUM, AND A FEW FISH TO START WITH

MY FISH

- 15 MALE GUPPIES
- 12 GLOWLIGHT TETRAS
- 3 RAINBOW SHARKS
- 2 RED FINNED BLACK SHARK
- 2 BRISTLE NOSE PLECOS
- 2 ALBINO OSCARS
- 2 STRIPED CATFISH
- 3 BLUE SEVERUMS

THATS ALL FOR A FEW WEEKS BUT PLANNING ON GETTING A FEW MORE

ANY IDEAS ?

Thinking of it now and seeing it is your first post, and without intending to offend in anyway, but are you sure you are not joking with us?

 

[dan the man]

WELL THE FISH I HAVE ARENT MASSIVE THEY ARE VERY SMALL THEY ALL SEEM TO BE PLAYING WITH EACH OTHER AND THERE IS LOADS OF ROOM, IM NOT PUTTING ANY DECORATIONS IN THEY LOOK TACCY,ARE YOU SURE ? MY MATE TOLD ME THEY WOULD BE GREAT TOGETHER , HES A BIT OF AN EXPERT

 

[snazy]

I won't go into anything more but to say, return all your fish bar the guppies OR tetras and a bristlenose pleco is optional.
This stocking is impossible and you need no expert to tell you that. In a few months time maximum your fish will either kill each other or die from diseases if you don't take action. It's up to you. And this is animal cruelty if you don't change your stocking. That's all I have to say. Good luck.

 

[dan the man]

WELL IVE GOT A FIRE EEL RESERVED WAS ALSO LOOKING AT MUSK TURTLES? I CANT SEE WHY ITS A PROBLEM THEY ARE ALL PLAYING TOGETHER .

 

[fluttermoth]

As the other posters have said, that's far too many fish for a tank of that size, plus a lot of them are going to grow too big, or will fight or eat each other

First of all, is this tank 'cycled'; that means has the filter developed the right sort of bacteria to eat the fish's wastes and stop them poisoning themselves? If it's a new tank, then you're in big trouble; all those fish will produce a lot of ammonia, so you'll need to do be doing very large water changes, at least once a day, preferably twice, making sure the new water is temperature matched and dechlorinated.

Now, let's go through your stocking....

the guppies and glowlights would be fine, if your tank was cycled

the rainbow and red tailed black sharks. You can keep only one of those per tank, as they're very territorial and will fight each other once they're mature. They also really ought to be kept in a four foot tank, minimum.

the two bristlenoses would be just about ok, again if your tank was cycled, although I wouldn't want keep more than one in a 100l tank.

the two oscars...this is where your big problems start. Oscars grow to over a foot long, and a very heavily built, messy fish. You would need a tank of [i[]at least[/i] 75 gallons/340l for those. They're going to eat all your smaller fish as soon as they can get them in their mouths (and they might well try even before then) as well.

the two striped catfish..well, I'd need to know exactly what species these are before I can really give good advise, as there are an awful lot of catfish with stripes on. If you can get pics, we can identify them for you.
If they're corydoras, worry, because the oscars will eat those and cories have spikes on the their gills and fins that they can extend and stick into any fish that tries to eat them, which would kill both fish; there's no way of getting them out once the big fish has got them stuck in their throats
If they're striped raphael/talking catfish, they're going to get too big for your tank too.

The severums would also need a much, much bigger tank, and will most likely get badly bullied by the oscars, as they're quite shy, for a cichlid.

I'm sorry none of us are sounding very encouraging, but there is a lot more to keeping fish than just buying what you like the look of and sticking them in some water, I'm afraid.

Get some water changes done, read up on cycling and try and get as many fish as possible; certainly the oscars, svererums and all but one of the sharks, back to the shop.

 

[dan the man]

I BELIEVE MY CATFISH IS A CORYDORUS, IVE BEEN ADVISED ON GETTING A FIRE EEL IN THERE TOO. NA I HAVENT GOT A FILTER MY MATE SAID FISH MAKE OXYGEN FROM THE WATER. ILL JUST NET THE POO OUT AS THERES NO GRAVEL TO DISTURB. AND THE WATER IS CLEAN I BLEACHED THE TANK BEFORE I PUT WATER IN.

 

[fluttermoth]

WELL IVE GOT A FIRE EEL RESERVED WAS ALSO LOOKING AT MUSK TURTLES? I CANT SEE WHY ITS A PROBLEM THEY ARE ALL PLAYING TOGETHER .

You cannot put any more fish in that tank; it is already badly overstocked with what you have now. I'm sorry to say this, but fish don't 'play'; what you're seeing is mostly aggression, territorial and hunting behaviour.

It's a problem because;

if this is a new tank, you won't have any of the good bacteria living in your filter to eat the fish's wastes, so they'll be poisoning themselves.

most of your fish are going to grow too big for your tank. Keeping fish in tanks that aren't big enough for them stops them being able to grow properly (think about what would happen if you kept a Great Dane puppy in a broom cupboard) and will make them unhealthy and die early.

fish need their own space and swimming room, and some of the fish you have are very territorial and will kill each other.

big fish, like oscars and severums, eat little fish, like guppies and tetras.

I BELIEVE MY CATFISH IS A CORYDORUS, IVE BEEN ADVISED ON GETTING A FIRE EEL IN THERE TOO. NA I HAVENT GOT A FILTER MY MATE SAID FISH MAKE OXYGEN FROM THE WATER. ILL JUST NET THE POO OUT AS THERES NO GRAVEL TO DISTURB. AND THE WATER IS CLEAN I BLEACHED THE TANK BEFORE I PUT WATER IN.

yes, fish do take oxygen from the water; that's not what filters are for. Filters are there as a home for the good bacteria that eat the fish's poop and pee.

Fish also produce ammonia as a waste product of the way they breathe; you cannot see the ammonia, so it doesn't matter how clear the water is, it could still be toxic.

I'm sorry to say this, but unless you do something, right now, ALL those fish will be dead within the next few days.

 

[dan the man]

THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT BUT MY FISH ARE FINE THEY DO PLAY THEY CHASE EACH OTHER I DONT THINK YOU QUITE NO WHAT YOUR ON ABOUT.
MAYBE YOUR JEALOUS WHO KNOWS AFTER ALL I HAVE A FRIEND WHOS AN EXPERT. SORRY TO SOUND HARSH.

WHAT ABOUT A FIRE EEL THERE COOL

 

[Essjay]

I HAVENT GOT A FILTER MY MATE SAID FISH MAKE OXYGEN FROM THE WATER. ILL JUST NET THE POO OUT AS THERES NO GRAVEL TO DISTURB.

Either the OP is really enjoying laughing at us all, or he really is this stupid. If he really has all those fish in a filterless tank with no decor whatsoever, then his 'friend' is laughing at him for believing what he says.

Not to mention that it is considered bad manners to type in capitals.

 

[fluttermoth]

THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT BUT MY FISH ARE FINE THEY DO PLAY THEY CHASE EACH OTHER I DONT THINK YOU QUITE NO WHAT YOUR ON ABOUT.
MAYBE YOUR JEALOUS WHO KNOWS AFTER ALL I HAVE A FRIEND WHOS AN EXPERT. SORRY TO SOUND HARSH.

WHAT ABOUT A FIRE EEL THERE COOL

Mate, (not to sound harsh, lol ) but I've been keeping fish for nearly 30 years, and have eight tanks (one with an oscar of my own), so I do know what I'm talking about and I am in no way, shape or form jealous!

Shoals of fish, of the same species, might well chase each other in a way that could be considered as 'playing', but it wouldn't happen between fish of differing species.

Fire eels are lovely, but can grow to three feet long, so you would need a much, much bigger tank; something like 100 gallons.

Of course, you don't have to listen to me, or any of the other knowledgeable, helpful members here; you can always ask your 'expert' (I'd be hesitant to call anyone who doesn't understand the nitrogen cycle or the function of filtration in tanks an 'expert', but maybe that's just me) friend.

Best of luck with your tank and fishes anyway.

 

[coolie]

I think he's just playing with us or trolling, there's no way anyone in their right mind would stock a tank like that with no filter.

 

[snazy]

This one can't be serious? Not even a filter I think this is a joker.

 

[fluttermoth]

*puts on mod hat*

Enough of the trolling accusations, please! If this a genuine poster, then we should be prepared to help, for the sake of those poor fishies

*Takes off mod hat*

OP, if you want help, proper help, then there will always be someone here to help, but you do have to take on board what they're saying and address the issues.

If you think you and your 'expert' friend know better, then I suggest you Google any fish, like fire eels, you're interested in and make up your own mind.