Paul_MTS
MAD
how about..
about 4-5 angels
20 odd cardinl tetras
10 cories
a few nice plecs then maybe some other shoaling fish.
about 4-5 angels
20 odd cardinl tetras
10 cories
a few nice plecs then maybe some other shoaling fish.
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Paul_MTS
MAD
39.5 UK gallons
47.5 US gallons
47.5 US gallons
Tokis-Phoenix
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How about a plec as a centre peice? they are a very varied species and there are many that would be able to fit your tank, go too;
www.planetcatfish.com
for more info on types of catfish
www.planetcatfish.com
for more info on types of catfish
I dont know if 5 angels would be okay in there though. maybe 3, as the size and some are agressive, and they may form a pair, then the others would not be able to stay, etc.
I dont think a sev would work either. Sevs need a 55 US gallon tank, and sence they are all the same size, the 180L isnt long enough.
I dont think a sev would work either. Sevs need a 55 US gallon tank, and sence they are all the same size, the 180L isnt long enough.
Paul_MTS
MAD
to gain a pair of angels it is best to buy a group of 5. with only 3 not only are there less chancers but when a pair does form they wil be picking on 1 fish, in a group of 5 the pair would be picking on 3 fish and lesson the agresion a bit.
3-5 angels would fit in there comfotabl though with the right decor. weather or not they all got on is another matter.
3-5 angels would fit in there comfotabl though with the right decor. weather or not they all got on is another matter.
You metnioned cycling with fish but you also mentioned you have another tank running. All you need to do is run the new tank's filter on the old tank for about a week before you get your first fish. Then add the filter into the new tank a couple of hours before you bring home the new fish and you'll have an instant cycle - no need to stress out fish and it doesn't take any time at all!
Then I would suggest you get 4 angels but, as soon as a pair forms, take the other 2 back.
Then get some scissortails (they look great with angels) - say a reasonable school of 6. Or, alternatively, a school of 8 black phantoms would look nice and they are hardy too so maybe make introduce these first and let them mature the tank for a while before you add more. Another option would be a big school of harlequin rasboras (they won't get eaten don't worry) as they are great schoolers and will add that extra bit of color.
Then I'd add maybe a bristlenose plec. 2-3 non-nippy, small-growing loaches OR a small school (4-5) of cories would make nice bottom-dwellers as well to fill out the tank.
Then, depending on exactly what choices you made, you may decide to get maybe a couple of the larger gouramies (seeing as you'll only have 2 angels) - either moonlights or pearls - pearls are smaller but more prone to being nipped so watch what tankmates you keep. Or you can go for banded or thick-lipped gouramies instead - a trio would be nice with the angels.
If you want to add extra color, besides the gouramies, larger livebearers such as swordtails and mollies (not wild sailfins though as they preffer harder, even brackish water) do well with angels.
You mentioned you also like sharks. Well most sharks are realy too aggressive and territorial IMO to keep in a very peaceful tank but you could get a flying fox. Alternatively, replace the bristlenose plec I mentioned earlier with a siamese algae eater or false siamese algae eater. These are also shark-like but have the added bonus of munching algae
. The SAE especialy. Unfortunately, they aren't quite as attractively colored as the flying fox (which also eats algae just not quite as well). Regardless of which 'shark' you go for, don't get more than one. Oh and don't get bala sharks!
Realy your options in a near-50 gallon are endless. I tried to incoroporate the fish you said you liked but realy this is just the sort of tank I would like if I were in your position. If there's any other fish you like particularly, do mention them and someone can tell you if they'll work out together in your tank. Make a list of what you want maybe and see if you can come up with a compatible group for your tank.
BTW, remember the instant cycle I mentioned It'll save you and your new fish a lot of trouble.
Then I would suggest you get 4 angels but, as soon as a pair forms, take the other 2 back.
Then get some scissortails (they look great with angels) - say a reasonable school of 6. Or, alternatively, a school of 8 black phantoms would look nice and they are hardy too so maybe make introduce these first and let them mature the tank for a while before you add more. Another option would be a big school of harlequin rasboras (they won't get eaten don't worry) as they are great schoolers and will add that extra bit of color.
Then I'd add maybe a bristlenose plec. 2-3 non-nippy, small-growing loaches OR a small school (4-5) of cories would make nice bottom-dwellers as well to fill out the tank.
Then, depending on exactly what choices you made, you may decide to get maybe a couple of the larger gouramies (seeing as you'll only have 2 angels) - either moonlights or pearls - pearls are smaller but more prone to being nipped so watch what tankmates you keep. Or you can go for banded or thick-lipped gouramies instead - a trio would be nice with the angels.
If you want to add extra color, besides the gouramies, larger livebearers such as swordtails and mollies (not wild sailfins though as they preffer harder, even brackish water) do well with angels.
You mentioned you also like sharks. Well most sharks are realy too aggressive and territorial IMO to keep in a very peaceful tank but you could get a flying fox. Alternatively, replace the bristlenose plec I mentioned earlier with a siamese algae eater or false siamese algae eater. These are also shark-like but have the added bonus of munching algae
. The SAE especialy. Unfortunately, they aren't quite as attractively colored as the flying fox (which also eats algae just not quite as well). Regardless of which 'shark' you go for, don't get more than one. Oh and don't get bala sharks! Realy your options in a near-50 gallon are endless. I tried to incoroporate the fish you said you liked but realy this is just the sort of tank I would like if I were in your position. If there's any other fish you like particularly, do mention them and someone can tell you if they'll work out together in your tank. Make a list of what you want maybe and see if you can come up with a compatible group for your tank.
BTW, remember the instant cycle I mentioned
It'll save you and your new fish a lot of trouble.GSD
Fish Gatherer
i would go for a natural take ful of wood and plants mabe sand as a substrate!black looks great(black sand)then i would put a large shoal of something in(cardinals)well anything bright and colourfuor 2 smaller shoalsl.then cories as bottomfeeders.then mabe a canterpiece fish(not sure.But if you want angels no sholas they are an angels main diet!
not true at all. Angels will eat some schooling fish, but not all of them. You could still have angels and some larger schooling fish, but not nippy ones.germanshepherdlver said:
And if you have money issues, you shouldnt get black sand, that stuff costs alot of money.
I cant do this as the filter is differnet as in my old tank i have a fluval 2 and in the juwel i have one of those all in one things attached to the corner of the tank and wont fit in the other tank. i also like the idea of the angels with a bristlenose, i think they look cool.sylvia said:
At my lfs i have seen some golden nuget plecs that i really really like. Need to read up on these abit tho.
Thanks
John
Paul_MTS
MAD
as long as your other tank isn't too heavily stocked you can do the transfer like so...
buy a new pack of foams for your fluval 2.
*if it is the actual fluval 2 with the round foams then i suggest you chop the new and old ones in half. if it's the fluval 2 + then tad easier..*
Fluval 2...
cut the current foam in half and then cut the new foam in half aswell. take half of the current foam and put it half way down in the Juwel filter box. Put half of the new foam in your fluval 2 filter.
you can chop the foamj about so it fits in the Juwel box the best.
Fluval 2 +
Remove one of the foams and cut it to fit in the Juwel box about half way down. Put new foam in the Fluval 2+
by doing it like this you will be sharing the bacteria between the 2 tanks and will give your new Juwel tank a instant start.
buy a new pack of foams for your fluval 2.
*if it is the actual fluval 2 with the round foams then i suggest you chop the new and old ones in half. if it's the fluval 2 + then tad easier..*
Fluval 2...
cut the current foam in half and then cut the new foam in half aswell. take half of the current foam and put it half way down in the Juwel filter box. Put half of the new foam in your fluval 2 filter.
you can chop the foamj about so it fits in the Juwel box the best.
Fluval 2 +
Remove one of the foams and cut it to fit in the Juwel box about half way down. Put new foam in the Fluval 2+
by doing it like this you will be sharing the bacteria between the 2 tanks and will give your new Juwel tank a instant start.
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