New Tank Cyle Please Help

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okay i have never started a cichlid tank before and was wondering...

How long do i leave it running? all my tests and things seem okay but its only been running 3 days now ( with my other tropicals i left the tank running a month before putting any fish in )

What is the best fish to buy first to get the cycle started?

thanks luke!
 
I'd highly suggest giving this a read before adding any fish. http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=141944
It's really best to fishless cycle w/malawis so you can add most if not all of your stock at once, so as to hopefully avoid territory issues. Malawis are extremely territorial and generally see any new addition as a threat to their territory, which makes the traditional stocking of adding a couple of fish every two weeks or so difficult if not impossible.

Also, what size tank do you have, and what fish are you thinking of stocking?
 
my tank is a jewel vision 260 ( 260 litres ) and i plan on having electric yellows and Demasoni Cichlid to start with hopefully planned on starting with 8 - 10 of each!
 
wow thats alot to read i will have to try and scout around some shops to get some household ammonia but its rather difficult with a broken leg haha

so basically i need to add the ammonia 10 drops per 10 gallons every day and when i see the nitrate and ammonia spike it says change 50% of the water?
 
There are two popular versions of fishless cycling, both described below. I personally prefer the method where you add ammonia until you reach 5ppm, and so forth. But, both methods are proven to work. Also, if you still have other tanks set up, you can boost your cycle by putting some gravel from an established tank into a clean (never washed) nylon, and add it to the tank to give a boost of beneficial bacteria. There are also several other things you can add, also listed below. One thing not mentioned, you need to make sure you add dechlorinator while cycling, as the chlorine & chlorimine will kill off any beneficial bacteria.

While the original recipe works quite well (4-5 drops NH3 / 10 gal / day until nitrite peaks, then reduce to 2-3 drops / 10 gal / day), it does NOT take into account varying concentrations of ammonia that are available. ACS grade ammonia, which I was using, is ~28% NH3, while most household cleaner grades vary from 4-10%, a fairly wide variation in concentration. Bottles that have been left open for long periods of time will be lower in concentration, as the NH3 gas escapes back into the atmosphere. With that in mind, I'd like to propose a different recipe, which was suggested by D_Man and others (thanks!): Add ammonia to the tank initially to obtain a reading on your ammonia kit of ~5 ppm. Record the amount of ammonia that this took, then add that amount daily until the nitrite spikes. Once the nitrite is visible, cut back the daily dose of ammonia to ½ the original volume. One advantage of this method is that the ammonia spike occurs immediately... when adding 4-5 drops/10 gal/day, it could take 4-5 days before the ammonia reaches the same levels. This should result in an acceleration of the entire process, though by how much (on average) remains to be seen.

Sources of Bacteria:

While it is probable that the bacteria required for the conversion of ammonia and nitrite to nitrate exist at very low levels in most uncycled tanks, it greatly accelerates the process to inoculate the tank with a large dose of healthy bacteria to get things started. Good sources of beneficial bacteria are ranked from best to least:

1) Filter material (floss, sponge, biowheel, etc.) from an established, disease free tank.
2) Live Plants (preferrably potted, leave the rockwool on until cycling is finished). Crypts or amazon swords are good choices, and not too demanding.
3) Gravel from an established, disease free tank. (Many lfs will give this away if asked nicely)
4) Other ornaments (driftwood, rocks, etc.) from an established tank.
5) Squeezings from a filter sponge (any lfs should be willing to do this...)
 
thanks ive read all that and am going scouting for house hold ammonia hopefully tomoz! i will no doubt be in deep stress mode when i try my hand at this haha
 
It's a little intimidating at first, but easy once you get the hang of it. Good luck!!
 

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