New Spawn (1st Attempt)

[adam123]

Hi Guys,

My first attempt has paid of thus far.

I have between 100-150.

To be honest i didnt think it would happen. I put them together and straight away they were
ok with each other but she wasnt at all interested in his nest. She destroyed it a bit and made
it much smaller. I left the room for about an hour and came back and she was sitting in between
the plants so i thought back to conditioning for her.

yesterday i came back and i found lots of little tails hanging out of the bubbles. He has been hard
at work picking up all of the ones that fall to the bottom. I accidently bumped the table and watched
in horror as he frantically picked up about 40 of the 50 that fell

Ive done a lot of research to get me to this point but now i'm a bit freaked out as i dont want to
stuff up and have them all die.

how long until they need to be fed. they have only been hatched for around 24 hours. I imagine
that they dont have to be fed until they are freely swimming? (those that remain)

I guess its normal that he doesnt pick up all of the fallen babies?

can anyone help me for the next part?

i.e
-what food recomended (my plants are silk so have not put infusoria in the water)?
-when to start?
-how many should survive?

will keep you posted.

Thanks in advance

Adam

 

[Wisperian]

Ok. You spawned them and you -don't- have any food? That isn't called doing research. If you didn't think it would happen why did you put them together in the first place?

 

[adam123]

ok ok,

i was waiting for this... i knew it would happen with this forum too....
everytime someone posts something... you get 1 decent reply and 20 or so
people who want to make ot like they are the fish messiah and only they are good
enough to bred.

1) no i dont have any culture prepared as it takes 2-3 days to get started i would
imagine that its not unheard of that before you start to cultivate you wait until you see
eggs or wrigglers

2) i have been trying to spawn these crown tails but i didnt think they were taking to each other.

3) i withdraw my previous comment for thanking in advance in this case

Adam

 

[lisie]

ok ok,

i was waiting for this... i knew it would happen with this forum too....
everytime someone posts something... you get 1 decent reply and 20 or so
people who want to make ot like they are the fish messiah and only they are good
enough to bred.

1) no i dont have any culture prepared as it takes 2-3 days to get started i would
imagine that its not unheard of that before you start to cultivate you wait until you see
eggs or wrigglers

2) i have been trying to spawn these crown tails but i didnt think they were taking to each other.

3) i withdraw my previous comment for thanking in advance in this case

Adam

Actually, this really is something you should have thought about before you bred your fish, so you shouldn't get mad about people telling you that... but anyway, to answer your questions...

You need to start feeding them once they are free-swimming; that is, once they're no longer vertical ( | ) but rather horizontal ( -- ). This is when they're yolk sacs run out.

Also, a culture should be started a few weeks before you'll need food, at least that's the case with microworms, and I think everything else too. You don't need a culture though, as long as you feed something else.

One thing that you can do in a pinch (and some breeders do this all the time because they prefer it) is use hard-boiled egg yolk. Just take a little pinch and put it in a spray bottle with water and spray it once over the tank water. The only thing with this is that it very easily fouls the water, so you want to watch out for that, and you'll have to do water changes early on.

That's only good for the first few days to a week at most, so you'll want to get brine shrimp eggs and set up a couple hatcheries. I recommend brineshrimpdirect.com, and there are instructions on there on how to hatch them. You can use two 2-liter soda bottles turned upside down with the bottoms cut out, they make very good hatcheries. You can even start feeding live BBS to the fry right away if you want, a lot of people do this, but only the larger ones will be able to eat them so you might lose some.

If you don't want to/can't hatch BBS, you *can* feed frozen BBS. You'll probably lose at least a few of them that won't eat the frozen food, but it might be okay. Live is definitely better, though.

Good luck. Keep us updated on the little ones.

 

[guppymommy]

Congratulations on your fry!

If you don't have any infusoria ready, it only takes a couple of days for them to develop. Some people put a leaf of lettuce in a jar of water, but one rabbit pellet (food, though I've heard that a rabbit poop would work too ) in water is a quicker way. The infusioria usually appear within 24-48 hours with the rabbit pellet in water. so if your fry are only 24 hours old, you still have time for some infusoria. I personally had java moss in my spawn tank but began feeding Atison's Betta Starter by Ocean Nutrition at 3 days (when the fry became free swimming). I also began hatching baby brine shrimp. I don't use the empty Coke bottle method, but rather the mason jar instead.

Best of luck with your new fry! Keep us updated.

 

[hakisuma_chan]

Congrats! When the fry become free swimming is when you want to feed them infusoria and/or baby brine shrimp. The infusoria you can produce with a lettuce leaf in tap water and place it in sulight for a day or two, as stated above, or rabbit food pellets. (That wouldn't make sense if you didn't have a rabbit, though...XD) Ok, and remove the male as soon as they're free swimming, because most likely he hasn't eaten in a while, and the fry start to look tasty. Yes, keep us posted!!

 

[guppymommy]

Well, I do have rabbits, but I know that before I did, my feed store would let me have one or two pellets for the infusoria, so you might ask and see.