New Pirahna Tank

[Musho3210]

well said stang.

 

[Maximus]

Why don't you just reserve 3 of them in the lfs

 

[rabbut]

OK, here is a solution that will help all out. OP, ask how often they can stock piranha. If it is regularly, or to order, you have nothing to worry about. If it isn't so regular, ask to resurve the number of piranah you wish to purchase. If the later is the case, be prepaired to pay in advance of collection, and order your tank while you are at it. This will make keeping the piranha for you a commercially viable prospect for the shop, but give you time to set up you tank before introducing your fish.
The tank needs to be fully cycled prior to adding your new fish. I gave a link to the fishless cycling thread in a post in your other thread, but incase you missed it, click this replacement > [post="113861"]click me[/post]. If you introduce your piranha into an uncycled tank, you will have ammonia and nitrite spikes, that could (and probibly will) wipe out your new fish. Piranhas are naurally agressive sholing fish, so I wouldn't recomend any group size of less than 5. Anything less that that, and the whole group will become shy, loose colouration and become suceptible to disease.
HTH
rabbut

 

[backtotropical]

Piranhas are naurally agressive sholing fish, so I wouldn't recomend any group size of less than 5. Anything less that that, and the whole group will become shy, loose colouration and become suceptible to disease.

Thats good advice from Rabbut. Aggressive is an understatement. I kept Red Bellied Piranha a few years back. I bought 10 babies originally, and by adulthood there were 4 left. Survival of the fittest!

You may want to take this into account when buying. The piranha WILL take out the weaker fish in the shoal.

 

[Musho3210]

but dont take that as an excuse to overstock

 

[Gatorbait]

Piranhas are naurally agressive sholing fish, so I wouldn't recomend any group size of less than 5. Anything less that that, and the whole group will become shy, loose colouration and become suceptible to disease.

Thats good advice from Rabbut. Aggressive is an understatement. I kept Red Bellied Piranha a few years back. I bought 10 babies originally, and by adulthood there were 4 left. Survival of the fittest!

You may want to take this into account when buying. The piranha WILL take out the weaker fish in the shoal.

"Weaker fish" is true but like I said in his other thread yesterday, they will kill each other to make more room for territory, which is what is going to happen in his case here.

Why do you start a thread on a forum and you're advised, you finally relent and agree...only to start another thread going agianst all of the members advice? You even got a little upset because you thought we were treating you like a child. Im sorry but this is exactly what a child does when he doesn't get his way.

Piranhas are only exceeded by goldfish in the horrible way the species are kept. Even on this forum there was a comment a few months ago in a thread about the misuse/abuse of piranhas and someone said "Who cares, it's just a piranha". I've been biding my time to wait for some horribly sad story about someones dieing fish and wanting someones advice from here to save it from agony and i would say "Who cares, it's just a stupid Oscar...betta" etc. I won't now but that's just sad that it made me feel that way for a few weeks.

You don't need Paypal to buy online. Credit Card or a check also works. Stop using excuses and be a good aquarist that can be respected. I'll always help you when it comes to piranhas because for the last 20 years that's been my love and focus, that doesn't mean I'm helping you because I respect you but because i want the safe and healthy caring of your piranhas. You may not care now why you get the help you need but when you grow up you will understand what I mean right now.

Please do the right thing.

 

[Musho3210]

bettas get it pretty bad too, so do pacus and plecos, and oscars. Im not saying anything against gatorbait lol im just mentioning some other mistreated fish.

Anyway it took my mom like 10 minutes to make a paypal account. Online shopping came first, then came paypal, so before paypal came, what do you think people used?

I also doubt hes coming back, its insulting when people listen to their lfs rather than us, were not in it for the money, and there are more than one of us so its not only one persons experiance. So i think thats 3 people who i have seen in my short time here (sure there are more but i spend most of my time in the relatively quiet marine section) who only hear what they want to hear and leave us for the lfs.