New Gouramis

[ShyKitty91]

Hello;
I got a honey gourami and a gourami yesterday.
After putting them in my tank they hid, which I assumed was normal due to moving stress.
This morning; when I turned the fish tank light on they were out swimming together.
Assuming the honey is male and the other is female, fin length and what not.

Anyways; this morning when they were out in the front of the tank I noticed something weird.
I think its a bit of fin rot; I'm not sure if it was there when I got them or not.
I tried to check them over at the store but they cram so many in a tank it makes it difficult.

I checked the water; and its all normal. The temp is sitting at 26-28C.
My question is; if I treated them for finrot and they didn't have it would it hurt them??

 

[Twinklecaz]

It's not ideal as with all living things and medicine but no it won't hurt them. But fin rot is often easy to treat with daily water changes for a while. I think my Betta had a touch of it a while back that's all I did to treat him.

When you say your water stats are normal what do you mean? What size is your tank and also when you say a Honey Gourami and a Gourami....what kind is the second one?

 

[ShyKitty91]

It's not ideal as with all living things and medicine but no it won't hurt them. But fin rot is often easy to treat with daily water changes for a while. I think my Betta had a touch of it a while back that's all I did to treat him.

When you say your water stats are normal what do you mean? What size is your tank and also when you say a Honey Gourami and a Gourami....what kind is the second one?

He seems better today already, so I'm not sure if they were actually bites from the other honeys it was in the tank at the store with? he looks like he has a gimpy whisker too; kind of split in two, he doesnt move it, but it doesnt seem to affect him at all either.

ammonia zero; nitrites zero; nitrates are around 30ppm (my water tests that before it goes in the tank too.)
ph is 7.6-8 most days, im sure its just my testing that makes it read different.

its a 30G
and I am not sure what the second one is. at the store they had dwarf and flame red gourami in one tank and honey and "gourami" in the another.
shes red with blue on her top fin. smaller than the honey. (she actually looks quite a bit like a dwarf to me but the dawrfs they had were ALOT smaller.

trying to make something to redirect the water current from the filter; bashes her around.

 

[ShyKitty91]

They are so camera shy it was hard to get a picture.

 

[creeker]

The top fish in your pic is a Gold Gourami. It's a color variety of the Three Spot Gourami. From what I can see of the dorsal fin, it looks like it might be a young male. These guys get five inches long, and can get aggresive towards other male gouramis, even of different species. Both of your gouramis appear to be males.

 

[Louiseness]

shes red with blue on her top fin. smaller than the honey.

The one with the red/blue in that pic you posted IS the honey (actually could also be a dwarf, picture isn't really clear enough to tell).

The gold one is, well a gold gourami

 

[ShyKitty91]

The top fish in your pic is a Gold Gourami. It's a color variety of the Three Spot Gourami. From what I can see of the dorsal fin, it looks like it might be a young male. These guys get five inches long, and can get aggresive towards other male gouramis, even of different species. Both of your gouramis appear to be males.

Interesting. Haha

I'm really not sure whats going to happen; I was always told that long feelers = male, short = girl.
The yellow one has a bad feeler, but the other is longer then his body. The others feelers are maybe half its body in length.
The yellow one swims with the redish one, and sometimes it looks like they are kissing.
They hang out together ALOT and I haven't seen them be mean to each other yet so here's hoping it stays that way.

Note: I call them feelers because if you watch them sometimes they "feel" around with them. Including the tip of my finger once.

 

[ShyKitty91]

shes red with blue on her top fin. smaller than the honey.

The one with the red/blue in that pic you posted IS the honey (actually could also be a dwarf, picture isn't really clear enough to tell).

The gold one is, well a gold gourami

Pet store people are ignorent apparantly.
I don't think its a dwarf though. Unless they had dwarf and honey mixed up and in the wrong tanks. Wouldn't surprise me actually if they did...

I'll keep trying to get a better picture of them. Maybe I'll borrow my sister camera since mine really sucks..

Either way I love them. Lemon and Tango.

 

[Liquid skills]

the red one is a dwarf gourami in my opinion as it has the neon blue on the dorsal and also has a different shape to the body but the silvery one isnt a dwarf gourami at all that is a honey

 

[ShyKitty91]

Urg; as I mentioned before the yellow gourami has a issue with one of it's feelers.
I can't get a picture of it but it looks like its split in half with a tuff of white where it connects to his body.
Is this fish fungus? Is it possible it was attacked in the store tank and got sick?
I read that fungus can follow an injury or prior infection. He's had this since I got him.

It doesn't look severe yet, but I want to make sure he gets better asap.
Is there anything anyone can recommend I do until I can get to the LPS for medicine?
I read about teatree oil.

I feel like a bad mommy.

EDIT
Went ahead and added some teatree oil.
Says one drop for every gallon.
I added 20 drops instead of 30 though, I didn't want to over do it.
Also says it won't harm them if they aren't sick, in appropriate amounts, will just kill any fungus in the water.
Which is a plus. But I'll watch them carefully.

 

[Louiseness]

The yellow one swims with the redish one, and sometimes it looks like they are kissing.

That's not kissing, it's fighting! be careful as the gold will grow much bigger than the honey/dwarf, and if this aggression carries on it won't end well

In regards to the 'feelers', both of my female dwarves have feelers around the same length as the males. With dwarves you can usually tell by the body shape and colours, and if your 'reddish one' is in fact a dwarf it's definitely a male with all that red colouration.

 

[ShyKitty91]

The yellow one swims with the redish one, and sometimes it looks like they are kissing.

That's not kissing, it's fighting! be careful as the gold will grow much bigger than the honey/dwarf, and if this aggression carries on it won't end well

In regards to the 'feelers', both of my female dwarves have feelers around the same length as the males. With dwarves you can usually tell by the body shape and colours, and if your 'reddish one' is in fact a dwarf it's definitely a male with all that red colouration.

I really don't think they are hurting each other though.
I think the worst I've seen is when Tango is sleeping Lemon will gently, when I say gently I mean gently, bump it to wake it up.

I'll keeep eyes on them.

 

[Ruskull]

It's hard to tell for sure but that top fish looks like a female. The dorsal fin isn't long or pointed toward the back enough for it to be a male. The shape of her head in the profile also says female to me. I have a Gold female & an Opaline female and your picture looks exactly like my Gold.

The easiest way to tell if the other one is a Dwarf Flame or a Honey is if the top fin has neon blue on it. If blue, it's a male Dwarf Flame Gourami.

These fish may be able to get along if the Gold is def. a female & the Dwarf is a male.

 

[ShyKitty91]

It's hard to tell for sure but that top fish looks like a female. The dorsal fin isn't long or pointed toward the back enough for it to be a male. The shape of her head in the profile also says female to me. I have a Gold female & an Opaline female and your picture looks exactly like my Gold.

The easiest way to tell if the other one is a Dwarf Flame or a Honey is if the top fin has neon blue on it. If blue, it's a male Dwarf Flame Gourami.

These fish may be able to get along if the Gold is def. a female & the Dwarf is a male.

I am still not sure what gender the gold one is, suppose it doesn't matter now.
The other died a few days ago. Squished itself between a rock and the glass.
AFTER, taking off the remainder of the golds feelers and a bite out of it's tail! Figures.
Anyways.. Needless to say I am replacing the rock I have in there with sand when I can!

There is 5 bleeding heart tetras in there with the gold one now.
At first, the gourami chased after them, suppose to show them who's boss.
But now doesn't seem to mind them at all. They all seem quite happy.

Oh, the feelers and tail seem to be growing back. Suppose that's a good thing.

EDIT: It's so funny to imagine a fish half the golds size beating up on it.

 

[Sailfin Zach]

Hello;
I got a honey gourami and a gourami yesterday.
After putting them in my tank they hid, which I assumed was normal due to moving stress.
This morning; when I turned the fish tank light on they were out swimming together.
Assuming the honey is male and the other is female, fin length and what not.

Anyways; this morning when they were out in the front of the tank I noticed something weird.
I think its a bit of fin rot; I'm not sure if it was there when I got them or not.
I tried to check them over at the store but they cram so many in a tank it makes it difficult.

I checked the water; and its all normal. The temp is sitting at 26-28C.
My question is; if I treated them for finrot and they didn't have it would it hurt them??

It's hard to tell if you can post a pic.