New 20 Gallon Tank

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I just set up a 20 gallon tank yesterday. I have 2 Molly and 2 ADFs in it currently. They were transferred from a 10 gallon tank. I also transferred about 20-25% of the water from the 10 gallon to the new tank.

My question is: How long should I wait before I add a new fish? And with a bigger tank, is it ok to add more than one at a time?

thank you!
 
Sounds exciting! Have you cycled the filter?
Read the topics here if not :)
 
I think you should of waited as its not the water that needs to change - its the bacteria in the filter


Get some piccies up of your tank etc, would like to see. :good:
 
I didn't cycle the new filter! :no:


I thought if I added the old water it would be fine. Shoot!!

I use the brand Prime water conditioner that says it brings down ammonia and nitrate levels. And I used the Bacteria boost stuff too.

Posted some pics of the tanks.
 
Hello there hotpink and welcome to TFF!

If you can't transfer those fish back to your 10 gallon and perform a fishless cycle on the new 20 gallon, then you'll be in a "fish-in" cycling situation, making it harder to be sure the fish will survive. You might have the ideal setup if you can move them back and then fishless cycle the new one using some "mature media" (pieces of sponge or other stuff from your 10 gallon filter - we can explain the process to you) to get a bunch of starter bacteria in there.

But if you are forced into the situation of a fish-in cycle with no other way out then don't despair as the members can also help you learn the best technique for getting through that too. In either case it typically takes a month or two to get all the bacteria grown and thus to have a working filter that can sustain fish. In the "fish-in" situation you have to be the filter yourself by changing out fresh tap water on a frequent basis.

~~waterdrop~~
 
Hello there hotpink and welcome to TFF!

If you can't transfer those fish back to your 10 gallon and perform a fishless cycle on the new 20 gallon, then you'll be in a "fish-in" cycling situation, making it harder to be sure the fish will survive. You might have the ideal setup if you can move them back and then fishless cycle the new one using some "mature media" (pieces of sponge or other stuff from your 10 gallon filter - we can explain the process to you) to get a bunch of starter bacteria in there.

But if you are forced into the situation of a fish-in cycle with no other way out then don't despair as the members can also help you learn the best technique for getting through that too. In either case it typically takes a month or two to get all the bacteria grown and thus to have a working filter that can sustain fish. In the "fish-in" situation you have to be the filter yourself by changing out fresh tap water on a frequent basis.

~~waterdrop~~


Thank you for your reply. Stupid me let the filter from the 10 gal dry out. So I'm sure all the bacteria is dead by now.

I think my prego Molly started to get a fin rot because 2 days ago I saw what look like long stringies coming off of her fins and part of the top fin looked split. So I rushed out to get some fungus clear. It's been 2 days and it certainly isn't worse. Phew. She recovered from Ich she brought home from the pet store and she was pregnant at that time too! So I have hope for her. And my other Molly has never caught any sickness ever, even through all the ick and the previous case of fin rot.

How frequently should I be changing the water for the cycle? I normally change 25% once a week as my normal cleaning.
 
Are you using paper test strips? If you don't have a liquid-reagent based test kit then you should probalby start changing out at least 50% of the water daily until you can get your hands on the right kit. Let us know and we can advise you on kits.

If you have a liquid kit then the goal is to never let ammonia or nitrite(NO2) get above 0.25ppm before you can change out more water. Each time you change water you need to use conditioner of course and you need to roughly match the temperature. Let's say you want to get 8 hours of sleep or need to be out of the house 8 hours, in that case your goal would be that when your got back and tested, the max these toxins would have risen to would 0.25ppm and then you'd water change again and get it back closer to zero ppm. Hope that makes sense.

Ammonia, even in small amounts, causes permanent gill damage and nitrite(NO2) causes permanent damage to the hemoglobin molecules in the fish blood, which leads to suffocation of cells, first resulting in nerve damage. So keeping the concentration of these two problem chemicals as low as possible becomes the overriding urgency when you don't have a working biofilter, as in your case.

One good thing about this exercise is that it imprints in your brain the miracle of the biofilter, which is at the core of the hobby, and serves to let us keep these beautiful little tanks in our homes day in and day out without having to be changing water all the time like nature is doing out in the huge water environments where these fish come from!

~~waterdrop~~
 

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