New 180l Tank (still Cycling)

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My_Fish_tank.jpgHere is my new fish tank, still not finished more plants to be coming soon.
I have just introduced 2 Mollies, water looks a bit misty as I just did a 1/3 water change and its still settling

To be continued...
 
hmmmm. The only thing I dislike is the substrate, the colored gravle. But to each his own. The only colored gravels I have found acceptable are dark red and black combo thus far, as well as natural.
 
I love the layout, very nice. I hate the nasty coloured gravel, but hey, whatever you like personally :)
 
I dont really like natural gravel, looks like someones collected a bunch of small stones from the beach washed them and stuck them in the tank, which is probably the point. Then again, I dont like gravel which over coloured such as bright pink/yellow etc. This was one of the only colours I liked and it shouldnt offend the fish too much.

Alot of people rant about the coloured gravel saying its not natural etc etc..but what is natural in the aquariums false environment, if im gonna decorate it, then i'm gonna do it with some oomph.

And I agree dark red and black is a very nice choice, it will be my next option in the future.

But yes each to their own..
 
It's a bit more complex that this. A lot of fish, particularly cichlids and tetras, alter their colours depending on their environment. So if you keep kribs (for example) in a tank with a bright substrate, such as silver sand, their colours will wash out completely, as the fishes try to "blend in" and avoid predators. Keep the exact same fish in tank with a dark substrate, such as black gravel, and the kribs will develop show more intense colours because they are less afraid of being seen.

Another aspect is that fish react to substrates in different ways. Fish that like to dig, like Corydoras, dwarf cichlids, and even plecs, will enjoy a sandy substrate much more than gravel. It's also fun to watch them dig. Some fish absolutely must be kept with a sandy not gravel substrate: flatfish, violet gobies, and spiny eels for example. Midwater fish like angelfish couldn't care less about the substrate, so you have more freedom there. Coarse gravel is easy to clean, so works well in tanks where you want to siphon out waste easily, as might be the case in tanks with messy cichlids or pufferfish.

So while yes, you're free to pick and choose a substrate by whatever aesthetics appeal to you, any choices you make should be moderated by the demands of the fish you intend to keep.

One last thing: the two plants by the big rock are going to die. They're both Dracaena sp., and while (sadly) commonly sold as aquarium plants will gradually rot and will be dead within a few weeks. Dig them up and stick them in a pot with some compost, and water sparingly. Otherwise you'll get the pleasure of watching your hard-earned cash slowly rot away.

Cheers,

Neale

Alot of people rant about the coloured gravel saying its not natural etc etc..but what is natural in the aquariums false environment, if im gonna decorate it, then i'm gonna do it with some oomph.
 
It's a bit more complex that this. A lot of fish, particularly cichlids and tetras, alter their colours depending on their environment. So if you keep kribs (for example) in a tank with a bright substrate, such as silver sand, their colours will wash out completely, as the fishes try to "blend in" and avoid predators. Keep the exact same fish in tank with a dark substrate, such as black gravel, and the kribs will develop show more intense colours because they are less afraid of being seen.

Another aspect is that fish react to substrates in different ways. Fish that like to dig, like Corydoras, dwarf cichlids, and even plecs, will enjoy a sandy substrate much more than gravel. It's also fun to watch them dig. Some fish absolutely must be kept with a sandy not gravel substrate: flatfish, violet gobies, and spiny eels for example. Midwater fish like angelfish couldn't care less about the substrate, so you have more freedom there. Coarse gravel is easy to clean, so works well in tanks where you want to siphon out waste easily, as might be the case in tanks with messy cichlids or pufferfish.

So while yes, you're free to pick and choose a substrate by whatever aesthetics appeal to you, any choices you make should be moderated by the demands of the fish you intend to keep.

One last thing: the two plants by the big rock are going to die. They're both Dracaena sp., and while (sadly) commonly sold as aquarium plants will gradually rot and will be dead within a few weeks. Dig them up and stick them in a pot with some compost, and water sparingly. Otherwise you'll get the pleasure of watching your hard-earned cash slowly rot away.

Cheers,

Neale



Yes couldn't agree more about the fish blending in to their surroundings, it is more complex than people think. Trying to create an ideal habitat for all these fish in the tank is near impossible, satisfying every need and requirement would be hard especially if the tank has quite a few varieties of fish. Although I think making the surroundings as comfortable as possible, taking time to research the species and finding out which substrate/water condition/food etc is best for certain fish are some of the vital things to keep in mind.

The colour of my gravel isnt a great problem to me, as long as it doesnt cause my fish any distress and they are happy in their surroundings then so am I. If it did cause a problem i'd be the first to change it.

As I am new to fish keeping I am going to be opting for relatively straight forward fish to keep. Angels or Discus amongst a few more will be satisfactory. I know Discus require a lesser PH but thats not a problem as my PH is fine and I am keeping a close watch on my water condition and doing as much research as possible.

I was considering sand quite seriously, although I heard it can be a harder to clean than gravel and can sometimes clog filters, but then again i've never used it as a substrate so I cant say from experience.

You are very right about the plants. The red tinted is dying already, the leaves are closing up and its not looking exactly healthy, the green one is fine for the moment, but i'm going to keep an eye on them.

Cheers for the heads up, much appreciated.
 
Sand is actually *easier* to clean in some ways. Waste doesn't sink into sand, making it much easier to siphon out. If you have a messy fish like a plec, you'll be guilted into siphoning out the poop daily -- seriously, the stuff just sits there, collecting in a corner of the tank, making you feel like a Bad Fishkeeper. In a tank with gravel, that poop would sink into the gravel and rot away. But using sand is not without problems, as I've outlined in a pinned topic.

Be cautious about mixing angels with discus. While they prefer identical conditions, angels have the edge in terms of aggression. A pair of angels could easily dominate a 180 litre tank. I'd tend to go for getting a pair of angels (or six juveniles, and then give away four later). For other stock, consider Brochis catfish (bigger, deep-water versions of Corydoras), bristlenose plecs, silver hatchetfish for the surface, and hardy tetras such as bleeding hearts (unbeatable fish, in my opinion).

Take the plants out, NOW. They're both going to die. "Keeping and eye on them" is pointless, and all they're doing is adding nitrate to the water and using up oxygen as they decay. Stick 'em in a pot and enjoy. Perfect for a Christmas present! They're both lovely plants, and become quite impressive when they grow (a bit like colourful, spindly yuccas).

Cheers, Neale
 
Ive took the plants out yesterday. They didnt look that nice really, a little droopy and closed up.

I wouldnt keep angels and discus thats why I said angels or discus, I like them both but would opt for discus because i prefer the look of them.

If ever I take my fish out and keep them in a holding tank I think I may switch to sand. It does look nice.
 

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