Neon Tetra Ill

[macssafc]

a week or so ago i asked if anyboby could assist me with what i then thought my neon tetra had Popeye.

Wilder and others came to my rescue as always(A Big Thanks to you all)

sadly this is now not Popeye has the little blighter hasnt recovered at all. infact in the last 2 days has got much worse it looks more like a tumor growth.

so can i do anything else or do i know have to think about something ive never done and dont really want to do?

if i have to do this and again i stress i dont. how should i do it?

but if anyone has any ideas if its possible to save the little-one?


cheers for the help

you know i actually feel low because its the last fish from when i started 2 years ago...

 

[WILDER]

Do you mean the eye has a tumour.

 

[macssafc]

Do you mean the eye has a tumour.

yeah it looks like a tumour now Wilder

im trying to get a pic but he keeps swimming away!

 

[WILDER]

Not the writer of this information.


Tumors



Symptoms:

Fishes with tumors have distended bodies or lumps on the skin. Unusual growths or swellings may occur in any part of the body. If they occur in internal organs they tend to cause firm, noticeable swelling to the general body shape. Tumors are usually confined to one area of the fish but they will continue to grow over time, weakening the fish until death occurs.



Cause:

A variety of environmental factors such as chemical pollution or severe viral infections. A predisposition to tumors may be inherited from a fish's parents.



Treatment:

There is no chemical remedy for this condition. Surgical removal of tumors can be attempted, but there is a high frequency of recurrence.







http/www.fishjunkies.com/Disorders/lumps.php

Does the eye look like its rupturing,

 

[macssafc]

Not the writer of this information.


Tumors



Symptoms:

Fishes with tumors have distended bodies or lumps on the skin. Unusual growths or swellings may occur in any part of the body. If they occur in internal organs they tend to cause firm, noticeable swelling to the general body shape. Tumors are usually confined to one area of the fish but they will continue to grow over time, weakening the fish until death occurs.



Cause:

A variety of environmental factors such as chemical pollution or severe viral infections. A predisposition to tumors may be inherited from a fish's parents.



Treatment:

There is no chemical remedy for this condition. Surgical removal of tumors can be attempted, but there is a high frequency of recurrence.







http/www.fishjunkies.com/Disorders/lumps.php

Does the eye look like its rupturing,

its beginning to look like it
im not sure if this is a good pic or you can tell anything

 

[WILDER]

Has the red strip alway been like that lost any red and gone to a bleached out colour, can you blow the pic up hard to see.

Has the fish shown any signs of flicking and rubbing on objects, does it look like the eye is going to fall out.

Just read this only making sure that is wasn't a parasite.
Not the writer of this information below.
Eye Flukes (a.k.a. Eye Cloud)



Symptoms:

Fish with this condition will have white specks inside the lens of the eye. This can lead to further damage, ranging from cloudiness of the eye to rupturing of the lens and blindness. In severe cases the eye may actually be pushed out and removed from the socket, leaving the fish eyeless.



Cause:

The larval stage of digenetic fluke parasites, such as Clinostomum, Posthodiplostomum and Diplostomum spathaceum. The parasite lodges in the lens, humour or retina of the fish’s eye. If present in large numbers, severe damage can occur. Minor infestations may go unnoticed. The life cycle of these flukes begins when fish-eating birds and other animals ingest fish infected with the parasites. Once ingested the parasites mature in the intestines of the host animal where they produce eggs. The eggs are then deposited into the water where they hatch and infect the livers of aquatic Snails. The parasites then develop into a second and third larval form before leaving the Snail to seek out a fish host. This type of parasitic infestation is most common in wild-caught fish and fish kept in ponds.



Treatment:

Treatment with Copper or Organophosphorous antiparasitic remedies have proven most beneficial. Prevention, however, works best. This entails avoiding any obviously infected fish, discouraging fish-eating birds from visitng your pond, and remving any snails from the aquarium or pond to end the cycle of infection (so as to interrupt the life cycle of the parasite).






If he's not in discomfort i would see how he goes, bless him.

 

[macssafc]

Has the red strip alway been like that lost any red and gone to a bleached out colour, can you blow the pic up hard to see.

Has the fish shown any signs of flicking and rubbing on objects, does it look like the eye is going to fall out.

Just read this only making sure that is wasn't a parasite.
Not the writer of this information below.
Eye Flukes (a.k.a. Eye Cloud)



Symptoms:

Fish with this condition will have white specks inside the lens of the eye. This can lead to further damage, ranging from cloudiness of the eye to rupturing of the lens and blindness. In severe cases the eye may actually be pushed out and removed from the socket, leaving the fish eyeless.



Cause:

The larval stage of digenetic fluke parasites, such as Clinostomum, Posthodiplostomum and Diplostomum spathaceum. The parasite lodges in the lens, humour or retina of the fish’s eye. If present in large numbers, severe damage can occur. Minor infestations may go unnoticed. The life cycle of these flukes begins when fish-eating birds and other animals ingest fish infected with the parasites. Once ingested the parasites mature in the intestines of the host animal where they produce eggs. The eggs are then deposited into the water where they hatch and infect the livers of aquatic Snails. The parasites then develop into a second and third larval form before leaving the Snail to seek out a fish host. This type of parasitic infestation is most common in wild-caught fish and fish kept in ponds.



Treatment:

Treatment with Copper or Organophosphorous antiparasitic remedies have proven most beneficial. Prevention, however, works best. This entails avoiding any obviously infected fish, discouraging fish-eating birds from visitng your pond, and remving any snails from the aquarium or pond to end the cycle of infection (so as to interrupt the life cycle of the parasite).

no flicking or rubbing yes the red stipe has always been like that Wilder

no loss of appitie

is this any better for a pic?

 

[WILDER]

I see what you mean it does look like a tumour, can you issolate him, does he look in pain.

 

[macssafc]

I see what you mean it does look like a tumour, can you issolate him, does he look in pain.

no i dont think hes in pain ive got 2 more neon in there just as company but i was thinking of removing them back to the other main tank just to be safe

 

[WILDER]

If he's not suffering for now i would let him be, but you might have to be prepared to well you know if he gets worse, sorry awful not alot to do, you can have tumours removed, but i doubt you would find a vet in your area who could do it., good luck.

 

[macssafc]

If he's not suffering for now i would let him be, but you might have to be prepared to well you know if he gets worse, sorry awful not alot to do, you can have tumours removed, but i doubt you would find a vet in your area who could do it., good luck.

should i get the others out?

and finally whats the most painless way to say goodbye if you understand me?

 

[WILDER]

Best too just to be on the safe side, clove oil, some use vodka with it.

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=8031

 

[macssafc]

Best too just to be on the safe side, clove oil, some use vodka with it.

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=8031

blimey thats a good way!

drunk as a skunk!

 

[WILDER]

Vodka is for the fishkeeper as well, though can't stand the stuff.

 

[macssafc]

Vodka is for the fishkeeper as well, though can't stand the stuff.

Thanks Wilder once again