Need Some Ideas Please

[fishnoob88]

I have 55 gal with 1 male jd and a senegal bichir, but now have a 46 gal bowfront that is empty, and open to any ideas. Thanks, in advance. oh, and i don't want a pair of anything that breeds, can't deal with the fry.

 

[likescichlids]

You could put in with the JD a green terror.

 

[minxfishy]

Youd need a larger tank than a 55g for a JD and a GT, both aggressive species, both needs plenty of room for territories, so please dont put a GT in with the JD

Do you want suggestions for what can go in the 55g with the JD and Birchir or Ideas for the 46g?

 

[fishnoob88]

just ideas for the 46, im pretty sure my 55 is fully stocked already, and yeah gt and a jd would need a much bigger tank

 

[shroob]

What sort of tank do you want - a single fish or a variety? Perhaps a biotope? South american vs. central american?
Also whats the dimensions of the tank at the edges, bowfronts have fairly narrow ends for their volume in my experience.

For a single fish I would say male salvini, love the shape of these 'mini-guapotes'. You could do a smaller centrepiece fish but have dithers eg. A less common Thorichthys eg. ellioti/"Blue Mixteco"/pasionis and have some swordtails and possibly a catfish for a mexican theme.

I would suggest a biotope amazon tank, but you dont like breeding pairs then lots of individual dwarf cichlids may look lost - but thats just my opinion. I'd do a school of corys, a single school of tetra and some dwarf cichlids eg. 1 german blue ram, 1 apistogramma cacatuoides and 1 keyhole cichlid. I'd probably do a larger cichlid to draw the focus such as a festivum - but choose tetras with care if you go down this route. Oh, and a plec of some description. With lots of sand, bogwood and plants.

If you wanted something unusual, a type of cichlid I've always liked is the pike cichlids. I'd either do a single 'belly crawler' or have a dwarf pike plus larger, more robust dithers eg. regani with deep bodied tetras.

 

[fishnoob88]

What sort of tank do you want - a single fish or a variety? Perhaps a biotope? South american vs. central american?
Also whats the dimensions of the tank at the edges, bowfronts have fairly narrow ends for their volume in my experience.

For a single fish I would say male salvini, love the shape of these 'mini-guapotes'. You could do a smaller centrepiece fish but have dithers eg. A less common Thorichthys eg. ellioti/"Blue Mixteco"/pasionis and have some swordtails and possibly a catfish for a mexican theme.

I would suggest a biotope amazon tank, but you dont like breeding pairs then lots of individual dwarf cichlids may look lost - but thats just my opinion. I'd do a school of corys, a single school of tetra and some dwarf cichlids eg. 1 german blue ram, 1 apistogramma cacatuoides and 1 keyhole cichlid. I'd probably do a larger cichlid to draw the focus such as a festivum - but choose tetras with care if you go down this route. Oh, and a plec of some description. With lots of sand, bogwood and plants.

If you wanted something unusual, a type of cichlid I've always liked is the pike cichlids. I'd either do a single 'belly crawler' or have a dwarf pike plus larger, more robust dithers eg. regani with deep bodied tetras.

The dimensions are 36"L x 16.25"W x 20"H. 16.25 being at the BOW. I don't care if its a single fish or a variety, or whatever. I don't mind breeding pairs, but what can I do with them? I got no lfs to take them to and being in a very small town, don't know anyone to give the fry to. What do you mean by choose tetras with care? I have no experience in tetras. Thanks. also, was looking up these fish and read that the festivum "They are happy in groups and should be kept in small schools." ? oh and after viewing pictures of a male salvini, im in love lol. how pretty they are

 

[shroob]

The dimensions are 36"L x 16.25"W x 20"H. 16.25 being at the BOW. I don't care if its a single fish or a variety, or whatever. I don't mind breeding pairs, but what can I do with them? I got no lfs to take them to and being in a very small town, don't know anyone to give the fry to. What do you mean by choose tetras with care? I have no experience in tetras. Thanks. also, was looking up these fish and read that the festivum "They are happy in groups and should be kept in small schools." ? oh and after viewing pictures of a male salvini, im in love lol. how pretty they are

The issue of excess fry is complicated and an ethical issue. Most of the time the parents eat the fry when they are ready to breed again, or other tankmates pick them off - if this seems acceptable to you I'd chose a predatory catfish that would get the fry at night, hopefully getting them all but no guarantees. Another route some people take is using them as 'feeder fish', a practice which is more or less frowned upon in the Uk but widely accepted in the states. However judging by your concern about rehoming fry, I don't think any of these methods would appeal to you, can't say they appeal to me that much either.

When I say chose tetra's with care, I just mean that some of the smaller tetras may end up as snacks. I'd stick to deeper bodied tetras with body shape such as black widows rather than 'noodley' fish like neons.

The problem I can see with keeping them in shoals, is if a pair develops they will harrass the other fish beating on them. I must admit I'm not expert on festivums so hopefully someone with first hand experience will chip in. I do know they do school in the wild though, apparently like angel fish so perhaps keep a pair? Heres a quick link on them Link

 

[snowflake311]

Since you are in the new world cichlids some fun fish are rams, keyhole, rainbow cichlid, there are lots of apisto dwarf cichlids that would work.a firemouth is a fisty little fish. An angle would work too. You could do one angle and one dwarf a mid size pleco a little school. That would be cool.

 

[Davo86]

IMO there isn't enough room for two adult Festivums, Adults should easily be reaching a fairly bulky 6-7inches.
I'd go with one festivum, 2 Angels, 2 Rams, 7 colombian tetras and a few bottom dwellers such as Corys and a nice pleco to finish