My Small Jellyfish Adventure

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Donya

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A little over a week ago, my dad and I went out to a beach that's nearly always deserted. That's a relative rarity in this region this time of year, but it is a bit of a walk out to the best locations so I guess that must deter the sunbathers that clog up all the other beaches in the summer. I'd originally had the intent of grabbing a few of an invasive Grapsid crab species (for which my entire left side is covered in bruises...blasted algae-covered rocks), but there were also an awful lot of jellies that had moved into the area - enough that the water wasn't really worth wading into, since many were sea nettles that pack a rather nasty sting. I had a plastic scoop that worked really well to pick up jellies to look at them more closely, and you can probably guess what happened after the phrase "but wouldn't you like a jellyfish?" wandered into the conversation. So, here is the end result:

(Note, this a clickable image - it should take you to a video)


Please excuse the general mess around the glass bowl. I have some serious cleaning jobs to do around that tank.

The equipment is pretty basic: largest glass bowl I could find, an rather weak air pump, and a sponge filter hooked up by airline tubing. The sponge filter is not there so much to filter as it is to ensure flow without bubbles in the water column and protect the jelly from the intake via a sponge. I had it previously with just a bit of airline tubing, but bubbles in the water column can sometimes get trapped in jellyfish's bells. This happens to coastal ones a lot, and pretty much all the jellies I saw had this happen. They can usually fix it by just swimming upside down, so it's no big deal for them. Sometimes they eat the bubbles though, and their solution to that is a little icky. It apears they actually absorb the bubble into the bell itself as some sort of bubble cyst thing and then extrete it out the top of the bell. It leaves a little dimple that is gone the next day. I decided that was out of my comfort zone and that it is probably best to minimize potentially stressful events, so I went with a bubble-less water column that has let the jelly swim more freely since it's more like an open water environment than a rough tidal one.

Keeping water quality up has been pretty easy, by my standards anyway. Given that I have double-digets of tanks already, an extra small WC every 1-2 days depending on feeding has not been a burden. It's possible the sponge might start to cycle, but for the moment I've just been keeping up on the WCs and using a turkey baster to remove waste when I see it. I've been testing daily and haven't had any spikes to speak of yet since the bowl was set up. There was an initial small ammonia/nitrite spike a few hours after tank setup, but that hasn't repeated itself so I presume it was due to dieoff of what was in the small amount of actual sea water that got mixed in (since you can't exactly poor a jelly safely into a net to move it).

Right now I'm just feeding it live brine. I'm going to switch it to probably half live and half refridgerated plankton mix today though using a pipet to target feed and minimize waste. It goes through a frightening amount of live food that will have me making a lot of LFS trips if I don't switch it over, since I'm not set up to produce brine shrimp on the scale it wants currently with 2-3 feedings per day. At first it would periodically try to eat the glass and airline tubing, but it seems to have learned not to do that, which is pretty amazing given the absence of anything brain-like in these animals. The issue of getting caught on relatively smooth things like airline tubing seems to be a myth, at least with this species. I would imagine this is why the Norwalk Aquarium I posted pics of previously to is able to us mesh partitions successfully without having jellies plastered all over the mesh. Attempts to eat the airline tubing had me wondering if it had actually tangled itself (it was a knot of tentacles), but in literally a few seconds it can just let go of things, untangle, and swim away as though nothing happened.

I don't anticipate a huge, long-term success with this jelly, since among other things, this is a single adult that may be full grown and I don't know where it is in its life cycle. How long they stay in the medeussa stage is also up in the air; I've read anywhere from 2 months to 2 years for this species. Whether that's a lifespan in terms of time until killed by the environment/predators or time until some other natural death I don't know. So, this tank could last days or months, but regardless of how long I'm able to maintain this setup, it has already proven very educational and to me is therefore worth sharing.

If I do another one of these sorts of things in the future, from what I have seen so far I would probably go for a large plastic tub to be able to keep more than just a single jelly. One thing I don't like about the bowl is that there is no way to safely reach in there with a hand. Going in bare-handed would obviously be insane, and probably the jelly would try to eat gloves, which would risk me hurting it. More space would mean easier to reach in without snaging a jelly, and operating purely with tongs and turkey basters can be a bit tricky with a narrow opening at the top. A larger/wider setup would also allow for mesh partitions to have more equipment (perhaps some LR to decrease the need for WCs).
 
very good read :good:
will watch the video now

that jelly looks cool :good:
 
Are they not supposed to have a very specific flow rate in the aquarium?

They are a very commonly kept pet here in Japan, but are always advised to have specialist needs, one of the most important being the correct flow rate and direction.
 
Another really cool setup, Donya. I've seen the jellyfish in the aquarium and I don't envy the skill needed to keep them healthy. I hope yours does well. :good:

Gasmask, are you in Japan? It doesn't say in your profile.
 
Another really cool setup, Donya. I've seen the jellyfish in the aquarium and I don't envy the skill needed to keep them healthy. I hope yours does well. :good:

Gasmask, are you in Japan? It doesn't say in your profile.

Yes mate, Japan.
 
Are they not supposed to have a very specific flow rate in the aquarium?

Well, broadly speaking the flow needs to be slow enough that it doesn't slam the animal against surfaces while also not being stagnant. If the jellyfish are being fed on dead foods, the flow needs to be fast enough that the food is kept suspended for some time so the jellyfish can catch it before it settles. Species from more specific habitats will probably have more specific requirements, but this is a sea nettle. They get tossed around quite a lot in the sea in turbulent water, and when they enter estuarine areas there is little to no flow. It seems to be a very adaptable species.

They are a very commonly kept pet here in Japan, but are always advised to have specialist needs, one of the most important being the correct flow rate and direction.

This again will vary with species. I have never heard of directional requirements for the flow, but a bowl shape pretty much sorts that out on its own. If the intake is spread over a large area to not have strong suction (the reason I used a sponge), whichever side the output is on will create a circular flow to some degree. However, the jellyfish breeding setup I saw at one aquarium also used rectangular tanks, both with and without mesh inserts, so circular flow is obviously not a concrete requirement. Unfortunately I don't recall the species offhand that was being propagated in that system.

Another strange tidbit about this jellyfish: I have read that sea nettles eat stray pieces of algae in the wild, and this jelly helps to clean its own tank by "licking" the sides with its wide feeding tentacles wherever algae starts to accumulate. :blink:
 
More vids...complete with mess in the background I haven't gotten myself to clean up yet. Both clickable videos again that should open a new page with the video embedded. The jelly is still being a good eater and is now on a mix of live brine, Kent zooplex, and the occasional bit of frozen mysis after careful washing to minimize waste going into the tank. Trying to keep to at least 3 feedings daily still.

Full tank:




Jelly swimming:



Have some interesting observations that go along with these vids too, as a certain something on the bottom of the tank might lead viewers to wonder about, but those have to wait for the moment...need to sleep first. Better to type after coffee in the morning. Err...afternoon maybe if I manage to sleep through the alarm again.
 
Righty-ho! So, stuff I have learned between the first video and the more recent ones:

1. Sea nettles are able to successfully navigate around rocks. They get pounded against them on the beach and don't get shredded or permanently stuck to them, so I see no reason why a SMALL amount of very smooth LR can't be put in with these jellies, as long as it's not impeding their swim space (which they need for feeding). I would never put a jagged sharp piece in but this piece is pretty worn down on all edges. The jelly had a small learning curve associated with the rock...fir a few days it kept trying to follow the bottom as it usually does to sweep up uneaten food and would head-butt the rock repeatedly trying to swim through it, but now it navigates around without issue. No harm came to the jelly from bopping the rock - they can't exactly hurl themselves at objects with great force.

2. The reason for the rock! Well, filtration is one, but the KH in the tank dropped to 5dKH over a couple days. No, it wasn't a bogus reading unfortunately, and I have no good idea of how that happened since it was on an every-other-day WC regime with new water that always has a pretty good KH of around 10. What I learned from this is that jellies need carbonates! Well...ok derp-de-derp of course they do 'cause it's sea water, but they interesting thing is that this one actually sank when there weren't enough carbonates. There was a fine threshold somewhere in the 6-7dKH where it was able to remain stationary in the water when motionless vs. sinking rapidly when motionless. Once again, the jelly is fine with KH returned to normal. Needless to say, this was also a completely unintentional experiment that could easily have gone badly if I had slacked off on testing the water.

3. Not so much to do with the vids but my worries over how to feed prepared plankton foods were a bunch of nonsense. Poor into a brine shrimp net to get rid of any liquid, then wash into the tank. The jelly eats what it can while the particles are suspended and then later does passes to pick up any that sink to the bottom/sides/sponge/etc. No leftovers to speak of really! The most waste produced is actually from undigested bits of brineshrimp exoskeleton rather than the prepared foods.
 
This continues to be extremely cool, Donya. Glad you can add some LR to the mix. Haha, I can see the jelly bumping into the rock. Kind of a "doh!" moment for the jelly.

llj
 
It should be Chrysaora quinquecirrha given the collection area.
 
I love jellies, whenever I go to the jelly room at the aquarium in Boston, I spend hours looking at them. Sometimes moon jellies pop up on Cape Cod, but those are a bit too big to be in a bowl. But anyways, this thread is fascinating to say the least :)
 

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