Music, earbuds, vinyl, digital and such

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The usual crew who end up chatting have been discussing vinyl, digital and ways of listening to music in what was a fish thread. So let's put this subject in its place!

To start, I see vinyl as dating people. Some, like myself, no longer have vinyl (a flood from a broken pipe got my record collection years ago). But we grew up working overtime to try to get a decent sound system. Others grew up when vinyl was obsolete, and what my students called "vinyl players" were heading for landfill. Now, my daughters both collect vinyl, and after years of headphone music, are into the depth of how sound can be free and in the air around them. They have usb turntables and inexpensive but worked out sound systems.

This makes old geezers like myself pioneers, connected to the younger vinyl freaks. There are 3 record stores uptown in my small city, and their painfully cool, snotty attitude clerks are like clones of their grandparents. There are eternally sneering 23 year olds out there, unchanged since 1978.

I pity those poor in betweener old people who missed on both eras of vinyl. They are old beyond their years, and beyond their ears. Like fish food, they have fallen between the large rounded pebbles of technology.

I used to play my Dad's old wax records (that he got from his Dad), let alone vinyl. A lot of that 1920s music sounds far superior digitized now. Technologically, it isn't either or, and I'm not sure the playback or delivery technology is what we're looking at. The biggest issue to me is ear buds, which ruled for a long time. They individualized music, and they have their uses. I don't want to listen to country music on a bus, and my dentist's love of Nashville nasal twangers is worse than her needles and drills. But I think people like to get together and talk about what they're listening to when they listen at the same time. Music isn't meant to be choked into our ears. I think there's a rebellion of sorts against private music and an understanding that it's good for music to fill a room (if the listeners are consenting adults). When I'm alone in the house, or in the fishroom (with its garbage sound system), loud music flows around me. It should be in the air, no matter how you access it.

Thoughts?
 
🎶 Love is in the air 🎶 I'm a categorical anti headphones, I prefer silence than having earbuds. And I'm nearly able to endure any music style...

I had a good collection of vinyl, But I grown tired of moving it around and never really using it. So I gave it all to a friend that is an avid collector.

To be honest I don't miss the 4 / 8 tracks tape decks era. The sound was degrading each time you played them.

For a long time I used a VHS to record music from my vinyl and tapes and use that to listen to them. The rotating head technology was a lot more easy on the tapes, sound was great and you could put hours of continuous music on one stretch.

Entering the CD era, I bought a massive CD changer, then hundreds of CDs...

Then came the full digital era... I converted all my CDs into audio files, stocked them on a computer and sold them. After that we entered the Napster era... My digital collection grew exponentially and today, I still have all this stuff in a media server.

It's a lot easier to move that way, loll.
 
I started listening to music on my grandparents’s vinyl 78s. Then in middle school I started to buy 33 1/3 vinyls. Moving to college I took my entire collection of about a hundred vinyls with me. I made many moves since the first and it became a chore moving with my enlarging collection. So like Malok I gave the records away. What a mistake. I didn’t participate much in the tape phenomenon but fully embraced CDs. I still have about 150 CDs of jazz, rock and classical recordings including everything Leonard Cohen put out. Now I have a subscription to Apple Music and have several hundred albums residing in the cloud, mostly classical and 60s rock and blues.
 
I don't have anything in the cloud, and am unimpressed by Spotify's algorithms. I'm happy going from Nigerian Hi-life to punk to reggae to rock to singer songwriter, old jazz, etc. My brain is seriously unable to settle for one genre or artist these days. I like jarring playlists.
I'm working on that. My daughters, with their lp collecting, listen to entire albums the way I used to in the vinyl days. I'm trying that again in the fishroom. No playlists, but albums. Yesterday I got a good chunk of time in there and went through the first UB-40 album, Ali Farke Toure's 'The River', and an old UK Subs release. I'll save the mixes for the car.
I have a huge digital and digitized music collection. I thought when I retired, I could sit back and listen to it all, but I've somehow managed to do that already. There's good music coming out all the time, so I can keep exploring.
With more money, I'd have a better sound system. I could play it loud and bother no other humans. If I can teach the deer to dance, it could be a multi-media experience.
I know that somewhere out there is a brilliant genre I haven't heard yet, but I haven't found a new to me in a few years.
 
I was raised on 778 rpm then 45. Int the 1070s I was a a partner in a sound company. We did a lot of converts, When we started we were using Macintosh tube amps- heavy as heck but great sound. One of my partners is an MBA and a lawyers and has earned 7 figures for decades, He recently bought one of the new Mac tube amps that sell for $11k+. It sounds great. The tubes glow green instead of the old style red. We switched to solid state when the Phase Linear amps came out. More watts that weighed a whole lot less. The nmae of out sound Compants was Similin Jack Enterprises Ltd.

My brother has an extensive vinyl LP collection. I used to have a lot of music on the cartridge style tapes. Today I listen to a lot of music on YouTube- I love the old concert vids. I recently began buying CDs as my car is a 2013 Subaru with a CD player. My PC has a good Klipsch speaker system and I have a graphic equalizer app on the PC.

Since I do not use a smart phone, I have neither head phones nor ear buds. I used to do a lot of the main mixes for the live shows. We all lived in a big old house built in 1808 by Increase Clapp. This was on a plaque on the house as it was historic building. It had a 2 car garage and was on a corner. We used to entertain the commuters going home from work by setting up a small part of our concert sound system inside the garage and we would roll open the garage doors facing the main route with a traffic light and we player a lot of good tunes for the commuters.

Most of the live music I have heard was in the 1960 -70s starting with Jimmy Hendrix where the ticket cost $1. I saw a number of shows at the Fillmore East and then all over new England. I have had 3rd row center seats for Little Feat, seen the Dead, the Kinks, Jethro Tull, the Stones in 69 and many more plus all the ones for which we did the live sound. We have a great small concert venue about 20 minutes away and we go occasionally to the Capitol Theater in Port Chester, NY. I find that I can no longer take the volume I could when younger but I still crank it up pretty loud in the car.
 
My best live shows date me terribly, and make me seem like a relic from another time. No wait, I am a relic from another time...

My top shows were The Clash, The Ruts, the Gang of four, Bruce Springsteen, The Pogues (with and without Joe Strummer), Toots and the Maytals, Billy Bragg, The Replacements, Fela Kuti, The New Model Army and Pere Ubu. The worst shows I went to were Bob Dylan, Frank Zappa. Lynryd Skynyrd and Edgar Winter, Peter Tosh and a host of local or punk bands that never quite got it together. The saddest show I saw was Canned Heat - a spectacle of addiction.

I saw a couple of bands that no one has heard of - ones that didn't make records or made just one, but were brilliant for their potential.

I used to go see live bands every week at times. Montreal was a bit of a hub back then. Where I am now, I'd have to go see Nashville country cover bands, and, uh, nope.

My "I should have gone" were the Rolling Stones touring for exile on main street (I was 13, and couldn't raise the $6.50 needed for a ticket), Bob Marley and the Wailers and Tom Waits.

My most recent show was the Mountain Goats, but recent is getting relative since I moved.
 
I definitely prefer music playing across the room than headphones or earbuds, it’s just better
 

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