Mum has joined the aquarium hobby again!

[FishBearer9845]

Good afternoon
Further to me getting 3 tanks , my mum wants to get back into the aquarium hobby.

When I was young, like many of you know, fishkeeping advice was very different, there was no cycling of tanks. She even had a common pleco! That got very large but luckily it was a very large tank! She also had Silver Dollars, they were lovely. And I genuinely don't remember a death in the fish tank, so she must have been lucky or done something right!

I've taken her through the mistakes I made, why not to make them through her new tank, and have given her the cycling guide. She's already purchased the API testing kit and is following the guide religiously!

Anyway, her tank is a Marina Vue 87L 76cm x 30cm x 46cm with filter and heater already installed. She obviously isn't ready for fish yet but her water GH/KH are
Calcium carbonate 366mg/l
Calcium 146.4mg/l
25.474*C Degrees Clark
36.6*F Degrees French
20.789*dH Degrees German
3.66 mmo

Livebearers are an obvious choice here, but what other suggestions for fish are there please?

Thank you

 

[AilyNC]

I'm going blind looking at hard water fish. Some Danios are but not sure if tank size is ok. Live-bearers, Rainbowfish too. A small pleco like a Bristlenose.

 

[FishBearer9845]

Haaaaaang on there just a weee second. Am I right then in thinking Bristlenose are suitable for hard water then? Was thinking of getting one to put in with my guppies?

 

[ClownLurch]

Step back everyone ....I’ve got this (Possibly)......fishkeeping heads all over the planet are shaking while saying”no no no no no”.

My water and tank dimensions are virtually identical, see signature.
Ive spent months trawling SF for suitable fish for dh AND tank length. I’ve about 30 in a list. How fighty/compatible/crossbreedy or easy they are to find you’d have to ask about on here.

List:
celebes rainbowfish, Forktail blue eye, neon blue eye, Delicate blue eye.
medaka, celebes ricefish, Javanese ricefish, Indian ricefish, wolasi ricefish.
White Cloud Mountain minnow (silver, gold, long fin)
EDR
Bloodfin tetra, glass bloodfin tetra, redflank bloodfin tetra
endlers
guppys
platys
wrestling halfbeak
least kilifish ( not actually a kilifish but a very small livebearer)
tiger teddy
silver tip tetra
xray tetra
cherry barb
Limia ( there’s loads, they’re livebearers)
florida flagfish
dwarf panchax
green panchax
dusky millions fish!
dwarf pea puffer (handy if your mam wants to off somebody)
potosi pupfish
diamond killifish

Thats about it so far. I’m going for long finned mountain minnows for my crowd scenes if I can get my hands on any. Possibly neon blue eyes, Medaka, least kilifish, EDR. Though research needs to be done and guppies probably need rehoming.

No Corys I’m afraid.

Id bear in mind that I know nothing btw. Check em all yourself on SF and on here before making any decisions.*


*puts cape away.

 

[ClownLurch]

Haaaaaang on there just a weee second. Am I right then in thinking Bristlenose are suitable for hard water then? Was thinking of getting one to put in with my guppies?

I never looked into Pleco as I’ve no interest in em.

 

[AilyNC]

Haaaaaang on there just a weee second. Am I right then in thinking Bristlenose are suitable for hard water then? Was thinking of getting one to put in with my guppies?

Seriously Fish says 268ppm but a few here have reassured me they are ok in my water of 307ppm. I think it was @mbsqw1d or @seangee possibly @Ch4rlie but definitely someone somewhere said it

Step back everyone ....I’ve got this (Possibly)......fishkeeping heads all over the planet are shaking while saying”no no no no no”.

My water and tank dimensions are virtually identical, see signature.
Ive spent months trawling SF for suitable fish for dh AND tank length. I’ve about 30 in a list. How fighty/compatible/crossbreedy or easy they are to find you’d have to ask about on here.

List:
celebes rainbowfish, Forktail blue eye, neon blue eye, Delicate blue eye.
medaka, celebes ricefish, Javanese ricefish, Indian ricefish, wolasi ricefish.
White Cloud Mountain minnow (silver, gold, long fin)
EDR
Bloodfin tetra, glass bloodfin tetra, redflank bloodfin tetra
endlers
guppys
platys
wrestling halfbeak
least kilifish ( not actually a kilifish but a very small livebearer)
tiger teddy
silver tip tetra
xray tetra
cherry barb
Limia ( there’s loads, they’re livebearers)
florida flagfish
dwarf panchax
green panchax
dusky millions fish!
dwarf pea puffer (handy if your mam wants to off somebody)
potosi pupfish
diamond killifish

Thats about it so far. I’m going for long finned mountain minnows for my crowd scenes if I can get my hands on any. Possibly neon blue eyes, Medaka, least kilifish, EDR. Though research needs to be done and guppies probably need rehoming.

No Corys I’m afraid.

Id bear in mind that I know nothing btw. Check em all yourself on SF and on here before making any decisions.*


*puts cape away.

Omg that's amazing!! What's your DH? I can definitely have some Danios & Forktail & Endlers but now I'm gonna check your list. I had been going off shop website supply too but they can order fish in.

 

[mbsqw1d]

Seriously Fish says 268ppm but a few here have reassured me they are ok in my water of 307ppm. I think it was @mbsqw1d or @seangee possibly @Ch4rlie but definitely someone somewhere said it

Seangee. He's the expert (well, he has a 15 yr old(?) Pleco at least)

 

[AilyNC]

Jeebus. That's some pleco!

 

[Ch4rlie]

I’ve never had plecos or BN to be honest.

But I think at 20dH or 360mg/l calcium carbonate, this is very hard water.

I would not put BN or pleco into this as it’s nearly 100mg/l over the recommended guide on SF

But think there are many species of BN’s and plecos so perhaps one or two specific species may be ok.

But as I say I’ve never kept them so hopefully someone who has will chime in with their experience.

 

[seangee]

Yup I've had my BN since 2004. Our water is hard (16dGH, 18dKH) and its only the last few years that I have been using softer water.

 

[AilyNC]

Wow! 16 years is so impressive

 

[ClownLurch]

Seriously Fish says 268ppm but a few here have reassured me they are ok in my water of 307ppm. I think it was @mbsqw1d or @seangee possibly @Ch4rlie but definitely someone somewhere said it


Omg that's amazing!! What's your DH? I can definitely have some Danios & Forktail & Endlers but now I'm gonna check your list. I had been going off shop website supply too but they can order fish in.

19dh- 340ppm

 

[AilyNC]

Oooh I'm doing an exited dance gonna give it a good read and see what can hop in my new tank