Morning News.

[Joshwainwright]

Woke up this morning to find one of my gibbicep pleco's DEAD.
I have no idea why he died as he had no signs of disease and I'm keeping the ammonia levels down during my cycle.

RIP.

The only good thing is one of my mollies have laid eggs, but thats no big deal...

 

[simonas]

Woke up this morning to find one of my gibbicep pleco's DEAD.
I have no idea why he died as he had no signs of disease and I'm keeping the ammonia levels down during my cycle.

RIP.

The only good thing is one of my mollies have laid eggs, but thats no big deal...

I didn;t know mollies laid eggs?

 

[Joshwainwright]

Haha, shows what I know, they just let them out alive.

 

[Miss Wiggle]

if your cycling then that's why the gibbiceps died. even with the best of intentions and hard work cycling with fish is very dangerous to the fish, that's why we always recommend a fishless cycle before adding any fish.

 

[kbekll]

as above am afraid ammoinia killed him off

not really the best fish to put in when cycling tbh

i would be looking to get shot of the mollies and start a fishless cycle

or on your travells look out for a pond or even out the windows and ask the owner if you could have a little of his filter sponge

my grandad has been asked many a time as his pond is out the front

 

[arobinson1984]

You shouldn't really use anything from an outdoor pond in a tropical aquarium.

Tropical tanks are alot more prone to infections and disease and you could be transferring all sorts of nasty things into your tank

Andy

 

[Nick16]

dont get pond sponges, god knows what could be contained on them.

i do fish in cycles and have only ever lost 2 white clouds and 1 shrimp. i am doing it at them moment with a bristlenose and various shrimp. i think i just know what im doing. water changes are about 40% every day. (its a large tank).

but gibbeceps grow massive so you would have to rehome him anyway.
mollies dont lay eggs, they are livebearers.

 

[Joshwainwright]

well I've just do a 25% water change, going to test for ammonia in a bit.
Got rid of my non-aquatic plants too...

 

[kbekll]

so would you use the media from a cold water indoor tank ?


sorry dont understand what you mean when you say "dont get pond sponges, god knows what could be contained on them"

you will find their is alot more to a pond than a tropical tank

also you fail to realise some people abroad have their tropical tank in the garden as a pond

sorry disagree with the comment ok pond fish tend to be hardy but they still have the same problems as tropical

and most pond owners spend an awful lot of time with their pond when some of the fish in them cost £200-300

my grandads pond has £4000 worth of stock in it and the water quality is as good if not better than an indoor aquarium

 

[Nick16]

dude chill out, we have koi ponds with show fish worth £800+ so i know how care for ponds. i have been swimming in my pond it is that clean. however i still would not put pond sponges into my aquarium filter. Especially in this country

1) you may have had diseases that you may not know about. (esp as someone suggested asking someone else if you can borrow some of their sponges!)

2) as the pond is outside, there may be 'air borne' spores and other things in the water and therefore on the sponges.

3) looking inside my pond filter box i would not want that in my aquarium! id rather ask a trustworthy person or friend if i can use their aquarium sponges.

water quality is as good if not better than an indoor aquarium perhaps but its not just this, it is what comes in on the sponges.......

LINK HERE, READ IT
i personally would not want all of these 'creatures' in my aquarium however small they are. id rather wait for cycling to finish and go and find some ammonia.

 

[Joshwainwright]

I don't know anybody else that has a fish tank, eccept one person that copied me but he has no idea at all about the hobby.

 

[Anna Robinson]

Ponds are more exposed to parasitic diseases than tanks are, because many parasites require another host, typically a bird or a live invertebrate, to complete their life cycle. Therefore you don't get those diseases at all in aquariums (provided that the fish have never been kept outside). There is also the possibility of exposing tropical fish from another country to your own local diseases, which they have less resistance to. But it would be hard to say how great the risk from using a pond sponge was.

Josh, ammonia is always bad, but to be honest the gibbiceps looks underweight to me anyway. Had you just bought him? They are often not properly fed while in the shop unfortunately. Sorry you lost him

 

[Truck]

eccept one person that copied me

 

[Joshwainwright]

Ponds are more exposed to parasitic diseases than tanks are, because many parasites require another host, typically a bird or a live invertebrate, to complete their life cycle. Therefore you don't get those diseases at all in aquariums (provided that the fish have never been kept outside). There is also the possibility of exposing tropical fish from another country to your own local diseases, which they have less resistance to. But it would be hard to say how great the risk from using a pond sponge was.

Josh, ammonia is always bad, but to be honest the gibbiceps looks underweight to me anyway. Had you just bought him? They are often not properly fed while in the shop unfortunately. Sorry you lost him

Yeah, I'd had him a day.
Bought some catfish food for them but not been giving them much as I dont want to increase the ammonia level during cycling. Just got to hope I can keep the other alive.

eccept one person that copied me

Hes copied me and ended up doing worse somehow.
Might be a cheap tank coming to me soon though

 

[Anna Robinson]

Catfish sinking foods are usually quite dense, so you don't need to give that much. If the pleco is new, try adding the food after lights out, as they prefer to feed at night, especially when they are new to the tank and still nervous.

Partial water changes, ammonia-binding liquids, and ammonia-removing resins can all help with the ammonia problem.