Missing, Presumed Dead

[Dazzle]

Please help....

On Sunday noticed one of my guppies had a few white spots on his back and behind the eyes, so isolated him and dosed isolation tank with interpet 6.
Seems to be making a recovery, spots behind eyes gone but others still there.
Meanwhile back in the main tank one platy dead, one cardinal tetra dead two cardinals missing and one guppy missing.

Done a water check tonight: Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0, Nitrate 20 (can never get below this)

Tank been up and running since March

Anyone got any ideas, there are no other visible signs to go from

 

[WILDER]

The spots on his back how big are they plus do they look fluffy in appearance, added any new fish lately, any signs of flicking and rubbing against objects, laboured breathing.

 

[Dazzle]

Looked to be about the size of sugar grains, none of the other tankmates had any signs of it or flicking etc but just found the missing guppy. Dead
The only thing recently added was an air curtain (Sun) and new tubes (about a month ago)

 

[WILDER]

Sounds like parasites, if the spots look like grains of salt on the back, sorry about the dead guppy is there any signs of illness on the body of the fish, R.I.P.

Not the writer of this information below.
Eye Flukes (a.k.a. Eye Cloud)



Symptoms:

Fish with this condition will have white specks inside the lens of the eye. This can lead to further damage, ranging from cloudiness of the eye to rupturing of the lens and blindness. In severe cases the eye may actually be pushed out and removed from the socket, leaving the fish eyeless.



Cause:

The larval stage of digenetic fluke parasites, such as Clinostomum, Posthodiplostomum and Diplostomum spathaceum. The parasite lodges in the lens, humour or retina of the fish’s eye. If present in large numbers, severe damage can occur. Minor infestations may go unnoticed. The life cycle of these flukes begins when fish-eating birds and other animals ingest fish infected with the parasites. Once ingested the parasites mature in the intestines of the host animal where they produce eggs. The eggs are then deposited into the water where they hatch and infect the livers of aquatic Snails. The parasites then develop into a second and third larval form before leaving the Snail to seek out a fish host. This type of parasitic infestation is most common in wild-caught fish and fish kept in ponds.



Treatment:

Treatment with Copper or Organophosphorous antiparasitic remedies have proven most beneficial. Prevention, however, works best. This entails avoiding any obviously infected fish, discouraging fish-eating birds from visitng your pond, and remving any snails from the aquarium or pond to end the cycle of infection (so as to interrupt the life cycle of the parasite).

 

[Dazzle]

is there any signs of illness on the body of the fish, R.I.P.

No the 3 dead fish all appeared normal, a bit of the tail was missing from the platy.

 

[WILDER]

If them spots look like grains of salt i would carry on with the whitespot med, are the gill red and inflamed, when did you add your last fish, plus how many gallons or litres is the tank, plus full stocklist of fish of how many and which type.

http/www.aquahobby.com/articles/e_ich.php

 

[Dazzle]

The gills aren't really that red, last fish were added about 5 weeks ago.
Do you think I should put the isolated guppy back in the main tank and treat
the whole tank?

Tank: Juwel trigon 190.
Well planted

Arcadia tropical tubes

6 Platties
4 Clown Loach
2 Bristlenose Catfish
1 Golden Nugget Plec
3 Cardinals
6 Lampeyes
1 Red Tailed Black Shark
1 Guppy

 

[WILDER]

Yes put the guppy back and treat the whole tank, clown loaches are very prone to whitespot, does it say in the interpet instructions if you have to half dose with the clown loaches, how big are the clowns , as you looked overstocked, you do no they will need a larger tank a they grow about 100gals.

 

[Dazzle]

Right I'll go and do that now, theres no mention of clowns in the interpet instructions, they are about 3 1/2" - 4" long and about 6 months old. Thats why I took the guppy out initially, should hate for anything to happen to em.
Thanks for your time, I'll let you know what happens

 

[WILDER]

Don't add salt with the clown loaches, good luck.