Maximum Amount Of Fish In 60L Tank

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What is the maximum number of fish i can stock in a 60L tank?
I have 5 baby patties, 1 adult platty, 1 guppy, and 1 Plecostomus
I was hoping to add a few more guppies 3 and maybe 2 Pearl Danios
Taking me tank to about 12 fish + Plecostomus
Is that too many or about the maximum i could have?
Cheers
 
Is it a common pleco? If so it WILL get too big for your tank. I believe danios are schooling fish and prefer 5 or more. Pearls can also be rather large like 3 inches right? How old are the baby platys? On the livebearers(guppies,platys,swordtails,mollys,endless, to name some common ones) make sure you get at least 2 females for every 1 male. You can sex livebearers using the shape of the anal fin. If it fans out it's a female if it stays straight it's a male.
 
Is it a common pleco? If so it WILL get too big for your tank. I believe danios are schooling fish and prefer 5 or more. Pearls can also be rather large like 3 inches right? How old are the baby platys? On the livebearers(guppies,platys,swordtails,mollys,endless, to name some common ones) make sure you get at least 2 females for every 1 male. You can sex livebearers using the shape of the anal fin. If it fans out it's a female if it stays straight it's a male.
No its a mini pleco, meant to for small tanks, i know that much....
Pearls can also be rather large like 3 inches right? i think they can not sure
Pattys babies are about 1 month old, with only 1 parent left
I didnt know that about how to tell the sex, I will have a look and buy 1 male to 2 or 3 females
What would you recommend for my tank
Regards
 
How did the baby's survive did you just get lucky or use a separate tank? Also not totally sure about pearls but zebras and leopards need 4 ft. Tanks. For recommendations hmm maybe a school of like 5-8 neon tetras? Then add the 2-3 guppies?
 
What is the maximum number of fish i can stock in a 60L tank?
I have 5 baby patties, 1 adult platty, 1 guppy, and 1 Plecostomus
I was hoping to add a few more guppies 3 and maybe 2 Pearl Danios
Taking me tank to about 12 fish + Plecostomus
Is that too many or about the maximum i could have?
Cheers
Well, I'm never very good with the stocking guidelines off the top of my head. There used to be others and perhaps there are newcomers I don't know who will come along and help but since I've seen this I'll take a first stab at it for you:

You have roughly a 16 US gallon tank (sorry, I have to think USA) and for me that says that if we assume a fairly normal rectangular tank with normal surface area (ie. not too deep or strange is some other way as to shape) and if we stick to fairly small torpedo shaped fish, we can start by thinking our tank will limit us to 16 inches of fish body (we are always talking about how big they will get at most mature size under normal healthy conditions.)

The 16 inches comes from what we refer to as the "inch rough guideline" (not a rule at all) and it is quite a wonderful thing for beginners to embrace during their first two years or so of starting in the freshwater hobby. After that they will be more advanced and can perhaps think about pushing things more, but that is a different story.

The difficult part of creating a stocking plan is the busywork of running around to different sections of TFF and other web sites and getting some reasonable estimates for the mature size expected for each of your chosen species. So, for instance, perhaps a platy might be considered to grow to 3 inches, or perhaps 4 inches as it's maximum adult size. Let's say it's 3 inches (I've not looked recently, I don't particularly keep livebearers any more and I really don't remember, yikes!) and you have 5 babies and an adult.. well, that's 18 inches of fish body right there and you are overstocked just on platies! Unfortunately, that's the way the guideline for overall stocking works.

The reason it is important is that during your first two years of fishkeeping you want to try to obtain the baseline experience of what a correctly working tank "feels" like in terms of how your weekly and monthly maintenance keeps it all working correctly. If the tank is overstocked, it is possible you will have fish deaths and problems that hinder you gaining that "feel" for correct fishkeeping.

(By the way, I'm just trying to give you some good discusson and things to begin thinking about. I'm sure some of our good members will come along with lots of specific suggestions for you about the details of how you could change your stocking plan.)

The Plec will need to be identified more carefully with the members so you can find out if it is one of the many that can grow to enormous size and might therefor be completely inappropriate for your tank size unfortunately.

Other phases of forming a stocking plan go beyond simple tank calculations. Some fish need to be in groups of their own species and the group may need to be of a minimum number. That's not a problem for your platies or guppies but for danios it is a good idea for them to be in a group. But danios have yet a different consideration that is part of the stocking problem - they are extremely fast and like a tank with a lot of length, such as a 20 gallon long as a bit of a minimum. So need for special tank shapes is another stocking consideration. Finally, another consideration is to look at how each species "gets along" with each other species.

Sorry for so many words, but hopefully I've outlined the stopping off places on the road to a good stocking plan. I'm sure the members will offer some more helpful and pointed suggestions and queries!

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How did the baby's survive did you just get lucky or use a separate tank? Also not totally sure about pearls but zebras and leopards need 4 ft. Tanks. For recommendations hmm maybe a school of like 5-8 neon tetras? Then add the 2-3 guppies?
I kept all off them alive, put them in separate pen type tank for the first few weeks, and since then they have been in the main tank. None of the fish have really shown much interest in eating them
Neon tetras would be nice, are they difficult to keep?
The guppies do they need to the same type or could I have 2 orange tail ones, and 2 leopard tails ones, or is better to have all the same type?
 
Excuse me.. A 'mini' pleco..? Whats its scientific name..? Do you have a picture..? I've never heard of such a thing, ever.

Asking how many fish you can have in a tank is very vague. Like asking how long a piece of string is. There is no set amount you can keep in a tank. It all depends on the maximum size, the temperament, the activity, and many more.

I'd not get the danios, they need to be kept in a larger group than just 2.

How did the baby's survive did you just get lucky or use a separate tank? Also not totally sure about pearls but zebras and leopards need 4 ft. Tanks. For recommendations hmm maybe a school of like 5-8 neon tetras? Then add the 2-3 guppies?
I believe celestial pearl danios are actually rasboras. I think they would be fine, but not in this tank setup.
 
Excuse me.. A 'mini' pleco..? Whats its scientific name..? Do you have a picture..? I've never heard of such a thing, ever.

Asking how many fish you can have in a tank is very vague. Like asking how long a piece of string is. There is no set amount you can keep in a tank. It all depends on the maximum size, the temperament, the activity, and many more.

I'd not get the danios, they need to be kept in a larger group than just 2.

How did the baby's survive did you just get lucky or use a separate tank? Also not totally sure about pearls but zebras and leopards need 4 ft. Tanks. For recommendations hmm maybe a school of like 5-8 neon tetras? Then add the 2-3 guppies?
I believe celestial pearl danios are actually rasboras. I think they would be fine, but not in this tank setup.

Clown plecos is the type of plecos i have
Ok i know what mean there is no correct answers

Im just looking for a approximate amount of fish I could keep in that tank, I would add them slow to see how much waste etc there is before add more
A school of neon tetras would be really nice
I wont get danios, i will only get neon tetras, and guppies
 
Not enough room for a clown pleco in my opinion, but you could get away with perhaps a dozen fish if they are the size of neons/guppies anything more and you are pushing your luck.

Also check to see if the clown pleco needs wood as part of its diet, im not sure myself, never owned one or researched them, which is something you should be doing right now.
 
Unless you already have this pleco I'd suggest 3 otoclinus instead. Maybe you could return it? And no it doesn't matter color for guppies just sex. 2 females or more to 1 male.
 
I believe danios are schooling fish and prefer 5 or more. Pearls can also be rather large like 3 inches right?
Assuming we are talking Celestial Pearl Danios, fka Galaxy Rasboras, then no, they're teensy-weensy little fish. They are shoaling, so need to be in 6+, and in all honesty, the more the better.

I don't see the problem in having a shoal of these in your 60l.

EDIT: Having just read the other thread, I';m assuming this 60l tank is the biorb you're talking about in the other thread. I strongly suggest you get your filtration sorted, and toxin levels down to 0, before embarking on more fish.

Part of your problem there may be the Clown Plec. I believe most plecs have quite a high bioload, relative to the size of fish (check this out, as I'm not 100% certain), and with the poor filtration inherent in the biorb, it well be that if you want to keep the plec, you don't have the filtration capacity for much else.
 
I take it all back, i didnt realise it was a bi0rb, if you want to keep fish in here i suggest you get some made out of plastic. mickey mouse fish for mickey mouse tanks, sorry, but if you want to prove to the other half that you can keep fish alive, then you are going to struggle with one of these tanks. :rolleyes:
 
To elaborate on what Tizer said, then you may well struggle with this tank. The advice that has been given by others so far has been based on the assumption that you're using a rectangular tank, which is very different to a spherical one. With the biorb, the majority of the space is in the middle and there's very little surface area at the top and bottom, meaning that you probably won't be able to keep any top or bottom dwelling fish (so the plec and the guppies are no good). The platies are probably okay, maybe a small shoal of some small tetra, but you're not going to get much more in that tank.
 

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