Let Me See Your Sumps

[nicklfire]

Hey guys

i'm wanting to get a sump going i thinking of of doing the inlet ont he left side, refugium on the left side and pump in the middle chamber.... but let me see the pics of what you guys are doing.

thanks

 

[Themuleous]

People dont tend to have sumps on planted tanks as they reduce CO2 level to much.

Sam

 

[nicklfire]

I would still see it as being an asset for people with pressurized systems such as what i'm getting today. I want to have a sump and refugium. So again does anyone out there use a pressurized system with sump/ref. there has to be somone.

 

[Dave Spencer]

I would still see it as being an asset for people with pressurized systems such as what i'm getting today. I

I am not sure what you mean? Could you explain please, as I am having a thick moment.

Dave.

 

[nicklfire]

Well the other guy said that it reduces co2 too much in a planted tank, but if that's the case if you have a pressurized co2 system it's as easy as pupping out more co2. I dont see how it reduces the co2 honestly it's just a sump.

Does not one on here have a sump/refug on there planted tank?

I think the addition of a veggie filter (refug)/sump would be very beneficial!

 

[Andrew Tan]

I dont see how it reduces the co2 honestly it's just a sump.

I doubt there are any/many people with a sump on a planted tank if they are using CO2. The CO2 loss would be increased massively by additional surface area of the sump and the increased water movement around the circuit from main tank to sump and back.

You could just up the CO2, but I think you'll find it would have to be increased to ridiculous levels to achieve 30ppm which is the normal level around here.

 

[nicklfire]

But if that's the only thing that's the issue is.. co2 loss and you have a pressurized system that can compensate easily enough for that then benfits would WAY outweigh the negatives.... That much more water volume plus veggie filter, plus any other bio filter you create.

 

[Themuleous]

If your dead set on having one ask in the marine forum they are the masters of sumps.

Sam

 

[JamesC]

But if that's the only thing that's the issue is.. co2 loss and you have a pressurized system that can compensate easily enough for that then benfits would WAY outweigh the negatives.... That much more water volume plus veggie filter, plus any other bio filter you create.

I can't see how a veggie filter is going to be of any benefit in a planted tank as it is going to strip out the very things you add for the plants. An increased water volume doesn't really make any difference and if you are going to dose EI then you'll need to do bigger water changes and add more fertilisers. Remember that planted tanks tend to have a low biomass so don't really need state of the art bio filters. With the increased CO2 loss I can't really see any benefit of using a sump.

Saying that some people do run planted tanks with sumps but they are in the minority.

James

 

[shrimply]

Lol,Sam how do you like being referred to as

the other guy

Personally I think that not accepting advice from these guys is a bad idea. They all know their stuff and I will be following their advice word for word when I set up mine.

 

[nicklfire]

It's not that i'm not accepting advice from these guys. I'v been a member of this forum since 04. I sit back and learn from them, i like to challenge there minds and learn along the way. I'm not just gonig to take there advice and so be it.... im going to ask well why wont it work.... and why wont this work. That way i'm learning why i'm not doing it. I dont know everything and am far from a professional guru. If you dont make mistakes you arnt doing much.
I do appreciate everyones input though, and i'm sure i'm not the only person who was not aware why it is not a common thing in a planted tank.

 

[Themuleous]

Guess at the end of the day a sump wont necessarily do any harm if you can compensate for the CO2 loss, just wonder what the benefit would be? But hell its your tank, you do whatever the hell you like! Let us know how it goes

Sam