Killed My Fish.

[DiscusKeeper403]

i had to kill my rummynose becuase he had fungus. i did a salt bath but then he was breathing hard and wasnt swimming just staying upside down. i got freezing water and added ice cubes. hes dieing as we speak

RIP stripes. you will always be in my heart.

 

[PaulEbs]

Sorry to hear about your loss, but in my opinion the method of euthanization [sp] using freezing water is not the most humane way to kill a fish.

Smashing it round the head in some newspaper with a hammer would have caused it much less pain in it's last few moments. There are other ways with cloves oil I think, although it's cheaper with a hammer.

Paul.

 

[WILDER]

I had to do it and found it the quickest and painless method. This is written by the mod on here steelhealr.
This is what I choose to do with my fish and my comments are only placed here as opinion. This is a heated topic. I choose based on my knowledge from my training:

Oil of cloves is a topical anethestic and was used in the past to treat toothaches. Lidocaine (like at the dentist's office is a topical anesthetic as well). When we operate on people we really want to achieve 2 things, analgesia and anesthesia, that is, relief of pain and unconsciousness. IMO, when a fish is immersed in oil of cloves, it is essentially 'topically anesthetized', paralyzed, but, I am NOT convinced that the fish is unconscious.....none of us will really know for sure. We don't know if the oil of cloves causes stinging to the mucus membranes, eyes, etc on initial contact nor if the fish is motionless, painless but aware.

Extreme cold is an anesthetic. When applied to skin, you can actually cut the skin and feel no pain. Cold also can cause rapid unconsciousness. In fact, hypothermia is reported to cause a state of euphoria and clouding of consciousness. Fish, at least most of the types that we keep (tropical), are extremely small and rapid immersion in extreme cold water, in my opinion, causes rapid pain relief and rapid unconsciousness. I have never seen any of my fish shows signs of what I consider suffering. They stop moving immediately and appear lifeless. Some have stated that since fish are ectothermic, this doesn't apply....perhaps in cold water fish I would agree.

I choose to euthanize my fish this way, rather than oil of cloves. One must either make an educated decision for themselves, or, choose what is currently accepted by the masses as what is humane.

Added: although I would never use blunt force to euthanize my fish, nor advocate it, one fact is for sure: death is instantaneous

SH


This is the thread bless him. R.I.P.
http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=157366

 

[SugarQube]

I had to do it and found it the quickest and painless method. This is written by the mod on here steelhealr.
This is what I choose to do with my fish and my comments are only placed here as opinion. This is a heated topic. I choose based on my knowledge from my training:

Oil of cloves is a topical anethestic and was used in the past to treat toothaches. Lidocaine (like at the dentist's office is a topical anesthetic as well). When we operate on people we really want to achieve 2 things, analgesia and anesthesia, that is, relief of pain and unconsciousness. IMO, when a fish is immersed in oil of cloves, it is essentially 'topically anesthetized', paralyzed, but, I am NOT convinced that the fish is unconscious.....none of us will really know for sure. We don't know if the oil of cloves causes stinging to the mucus membranes, eyes, etc on initial contact nor if the fish is motionless, painless but aware.

Extreme cold is an anesthetic. When applied to skin, you can actually cut the skin and feel no pain. Cold also can cause rapid unconsciousness. In fact, hypothermia is reported to cause a state of euphoria and clouding of consciousness. Fish, at least most of the types that we keep (tropical), are extremely small and rapid immersion in extreme cold water, in my opinion, causes rapid pain relief and rapid unconsciousness. I have never seen any of my fish shows signs of what I consider suffering. They stop moving immediately and appear lifeless. Some have stated that since fish are ectothermic, this doesn't apply....perhaps in cold water fish I would agree.
Maybe I was really wrong but when my fish was nearly dead I flushed him down the Loo

I choose to euthanize my fish this way, rather than oil of cloves. One must either make an educated decision for themselves, or, choose what is currently accepted by the masses as what is humane.

Added: although I would never use blunt force to euthanize my fish, nor advocate it, one fact is for sure: death is instantaneous

SH


This is the thread bless him. R.I.P.
http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=157366

I had to do it and found it the quickest and painless method. This is written by the mod on here steelhealr.
This is what I choose to do with my fish and my comments are only placed here as opinion. This is a heated topic. I choose based on my knowledge from my training:

Oil of cloves is a topical anethestic and was used in the past to treat toothaches. Lidocaine (like at the dentist's office is a topical anesthetic as well). When we operate on people we really want to achieve 2 things, analgesia and anesthesia, that is, relief of pain and unconsciousness. IMO, when a fish is immersed in oil of cloves, it is essentially 'topically anesthetized', paralyzed, but, I am NOT convinced that the fish is unconscious.....none of us will really know for sure. We don't know if the oil of cloves causes stinging to the mucus membranes, eyes, etc on initial contact nor if the fish is motionless, painless but aware.

Extreme cold is an anesthetic. When applied to skin, you can actually cut the skin and feel no pain. Cold also can cause rapid unconsciousness. In fact, hypothermia is reported to cause a state of euphoria and clouding of consciousness. Fish, at least most of the types that we keep (tropical), are extremely small and rapid immersion in extreme cold water, in my opinion, causes rapid pain relief and rapid unconsciousness. I have never seen any of my fish shows signs of what I consider suffering. They stop moving immediately and appear lifeless. Some have stated that since fish are ectothermic, this doesn't apply....perhaps in cold water fish I would agree.
Maybe I was really wrong but when my fish was nearly dead I flushed him down the Loo

I choose to euthanize my fish this way, rather than oil of cloves. One must either make an educated decision for themselves, or, choose what is currently accepted by the masses as what is humane.

Added: although I would never use blunt force to euthanize my fish, nor advocate it, one fact is for sure: death is instantaneous

SH


This is the thread bless him. R.I.P.
http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=157366

Sorry replied in the wrong place there ! May your fish RIP

I had to do it and found it the quickest and painless method. This is written by the mod on here steelhealr.
This is what I choose to do with my fish and my comments are only placed here as opinion. This is a heated topic. I choose based on my knowledge from my training:

Oil of cloves is a topical anethestic and was used in the past to treat toothaches. Lidocaine (like at the dentist's office is a topical anesthetic as well). When we operate on people we really want to achieve 2 things, analgesia and anesthesia, that is, relief of pain and unconsciousness. IMO, when a fish is immersed in oil of cloves, it is essentially 'topically anesthetized', paralyzed, but, I am NOT convinced that the fish is unconscious.....none of us will really know for sure. We don't know if the oil of cloves causes stinging to the mucus membranes, eyes, etc on initial contact nor if the fish is motionless, painless but aware.

Extreme cold is an anesthetic. When applied to skin, you can actually cut the skin and feel no pain. Cold also can cause rapid unconsciousness. In fact, hypothermia is reported to cause a state of euphoria and clouding of consciousness. Fish, at least most of the types that we keep (tropical), are extremely small and rapid immersion in extreme cold water, in my opinion, causes rapid pain relief and rapid unconsciousness. I have never seen any of my fish shows signs of what I consider suffering. They stop moving immediately and appear lifeless. Some have stated that since fish are ectothermic, this doesn't apply....perhaps in cold water fish I would agree.
Maybe I was really wrong but when my fish was nearly dead I flushed him down the Loo

I choose to euthanize my fish this way, rather than oil of cloves. One must either make an educated decision for themselves, or, choose what is currently accepted by the masses as what is humane.

Added: although I would never use blunt force to euthanize my fish, nor advocate it, one fact is for sure: death is instantaneous

SH


This is the thread bless him. R.I.P.
http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=157366

I had to do it and found it the quickest and painless method. This is written by the mod on here steelhealr.
This is what I choose to do with my fish and my comments are only placed here as opinion. This is a heated topic. I choose based on my knowledge from my training:

Oil of cloves is a topical anethestic and was used in the past to treat toothaches. Lidocaine (like at the dentist's office is a topical anesthetic as well). When we operate on people we really want to achieve 2 things, analgesia and anesthesia, that is, relief of pain and unconsciousness. IMO, when a fish is immersed in oil of cloves, it is essentially 'topically anesthetized', paralyzed, but, I am NOT convinced that the fish is unconscious.....none of us will really know for sure. We don't know if the oil of cloves causes stinging to the mucus membranes, eyes, etc on initial contact nor if the fish is motionless, painless but aware.

Extreme cold is an anesthetic. When applied to skin, you can actually cut the skin and feel no pain. Cold also can cause rapid unconsciousness. In fact, hypothermia is reported to cause a state of euphoria and clouding of consciousness. Fish, at least most of the types that we keep (tropical), are extremely small and rapid immersion in extreme cold water, in my opinion, causes rapid pain relief and rapid unconsciousness. I have never seen any of my fish shows signs of what I consider suffering. They stop moving immediately and appear lifeless. Some have stated that since fish are ectothermic, this doesn't apply....perhaps in cold water fish I would agree.
Maybe I was really wrong but when my fish was nearly dead I flushed him down the Loo

I choose to euthanize my fish this way, rather than oil of cloves. One must either make an educated decision for themselves, or, choose what is currently accepted by the masses as what is humane.

Added: although I would never use blunt force to euthanize my fish, nor advocate it, one fact is for sure: death is instantaneous

SH


This is the thread bless him. R.I.P.
http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=157366

Sorry replied in the wrong place there ! May your fish RIP. I flushed my likkle fish down the Loo when he was dying

 

[Tetras]

Sorry to hear about your loss Discuslova, as far as I can tell, you did what you could to save the little guy.

 

[SPLiSH]

Poor little guy.

Oh god, I hope I never have to euthanise one of mine... don't know what method I would use.

 

[Captain Retardo]

Sorry about the fish discuslova.
I don't particularaly care what method is used, but I just want to say that DO NOT FLUSH A FISH DOWN THE TOILET, EVEN AFTER ITS DEAD!

This will cause disease to spread to native fish of your area.

If I had to euthanize my fish I would get a hammer and smash his head, easiest and mose humane way, if your grossed out, get some gloves and close your eyes, also put the fish in a paper bag, then smash it so you don't see it; well umm.........splat.

Have a nice day ....

 

[puddle_inc]

freezing it or smashing it is terrible...

i heard, that when you have to kill one for it's own good, if there is no other choice of saving it, that if you put it in a baggie and put it in the fridge. they say it wil go into hibernation, then die in it's sleep. it's painless and they go into hibernation, so they don't feel a thing. altho, it is still sad to kill a fish....

 

[Captain Retardo]

Why is freezing or smashing it terrible

If you put it in the refrigerator the fish will die slowly and painfully! What if you put a fish in cold (not freezing) water, it wouldn't kill it painlessly, the fish would labor to breath, and slowly wither away...I know, I had to do expirements of this nature just a couple of years ago in school. Actually if you put it in the fridge, it would suffocate and die a painful death, suffocating is a bad way to die.

It may be sad to kill a fish, but If you can't save it, and it is in a terrible condition, what else are you going to do?

 

[highfire]

So sorry to hear about your loss, Discuslova. It's always extremely sad when you lose a fish, no matter what the species.
I have had to put a few of my fish out of their misery in my time. They were only small fish - a while cloud mountain minnow and two orandas - and the only way I could bring myself to do it was to wrap them up in a piece of kitchen roll and give them a sharp knock with a wooden rolling pin. A direct hit each time ensured that the end came quick and hopefully painlessly.
I'm not too sure how I would be if I had to put a larger fish out of it's misery. I'm sure I would find that a lot more difficult.
What a sore subject this is.

 

[Captain Retardo]

A way to put larger fish out of pain is to get an "Angler's Priest" , or something called like that, it is basically a big hammer used for killing fish that you catch when you go fishing. Look in your local sporting goods store and you should find it.

 

[DiscusKeeper403]

im still pretty sad, what i did was i got this freezing cold water its from this bottled water dispencer thingy with the white and blue tabs. i put some of that along with a bunch of icecubs into a bowl. i took him out of the tank and set him in. he immediatly stopped breathing and sank to the bottom. i flushed him down the toleit tho

 

[Captain Retardo]

PLEASE STOP FLUSHING FISH DOWN THE TOLIET DAMNIT! (general comment to everybody!)


UGH!!!!!

Didn't your fish have a fungus also??? If so, then so will the fish that live in the lake and rivers near you.

 

[ImperfectFaerie]

Flushing ANY animal isnt a good thing- you can introduce whatever disease/fungus/bacteria/etc to the local ecosystem. Also, if the fish was just in a deep sleep/knocked out and wasn't really dead that is also introduced to the local ecosystem. I'm sorry about your fish, that's got to be a hard decision to make. Next time please don't flush 'em!

 

[Lynz781]

Why flush down the toilet!!! It really frustrates me