Juwel Rio 400 Filter

[andrew27]

Hi every one I'm new to this site so not quite sure what I'm doing.
I have been keeping fish for about 10 years. I have had a juwel rio 400 setup for about 8 months.
Im running the juwel filter and ime also running a eheim professional 3 2073 external filter.
I was suffering with high nitrates but I have managed to bring them down.

The fish I have are.
2 parrots
1 keyhole cichlid
5 clown loaches
2 pakistani loaches
2 weather loaches
1 pleco

I'm thinking of removing the juwel filter and replacing it with a JBL CristalProfi i200 Internal Filter
Would this be a good idea or am I better sticking with the juwel filter?
I'm finding the juwel filter is messy to clean and drops a lot of waste back in the tank when I remove the sponges to clean them, also one of the filter baskets has snapped in half.
My local shop has adviced me to remove the Juwel filter and I have read a lot about people removing the Juwel filters and finding this is the best thing they have done.
I just want to get some more views and advice on this before I do it.

Andy.

 

[scotty]

is it the juwel 6.0 filter chamber in your tank?

 

[andrew27]

is it the juwel 6.0 filter chamber in your tank?

yes

Hi again, I've taken the juwel filter out of my rio 400 and I want to replace it with an external, The juwel pump says it turns over 1000 litres an hour.
I'm already running an eheim professional 3 350.
I would like to put an eheim ecco pro 300 external to replace the juwel filter, but the eheim ecco pro 300 only turns over 750 litres an hour.
If I have the eheim professional 3 350 at one end and an eheim ecco pro 300 at the other will that be ok.
Or do I need another filter that will turn over a 1000 litres an hour.

Or I was thinking of putting a Eheim Biopower 240 Internal Filter
at one end then I can put floss in a couple of the chambers and change it once a week like I used to with the juwel filter. But I know internals are not as powerful as externals but if I run it wth the eheim profesional 3 350 would that be ok.

So that is my dilema, do I need to run 2 externals that each turn over 1000 litres an hour .
Or can I run one large external and one smaller external, (smaller external is easier to clean that a large one.)
Or can I run one large external and one large internal?

With 2 externals I would clean one every 4 weeks.
With 1 external and 1 internal I could clean would clean the external every 4 weeks and I would change the floss in the internal once a week.
Whats the best option to go for?

 

[N0body Of The Goat]

Hi andrew27, scotty very kindly (once again

) gave me a link to this thread, because of the mention of a Bioflow 6 filter chamber. I bought a Bioflow 1500 pumpset a while ago on Ebay, only to find that it is only compatable with the bioflow 6 filter, which I did not have and have had a fruitless search trying to source one!

http/www.juwel-aquarium.de/en/aktuelle_modelle303.htm?cat=1216
Do the 13.2 x 53 x 20 cm dimensions match up with yours?

If so, I would be very intrested in buying the filter from you, if it is going to be surplus to requirements

As to your dilemma, you might be able to "get by" by supplementing the existing Pro3 350 with a decent powerhead of say 2000-3000lph.
The amount of water turnover will be dependent on your fish stocking, but as a ballpark figure, many fish would be content in a true ~2400lph current going round the tank (which I do not think is the same as having say 1000lph filter and a 1400lph filter).
Fluval FX5s can now be had for less than £140 new on Ebay, while All Pond Solution 2000EFs for a mere £75 (my next planned filter purchase).

I have an Eheim 2078 (~1100lph with Eheim Substrat Pro media) and a Fluval FX5 (~2200lph with media) in my 5-footer and to be frank I feel the need for more water movement, because my fish are riverine... I can see myself supplementing the filters with a 4000-5000lph powerhead in the very near future.