It's Starting To Come Together

kisin

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Well It might have been a long time coming, but today I eventually got everything I needed to begin the hardscaping of my tank.

As I'm too lazy to make another post :p if your interested just click my signature and you will be taken to my blog :D

Regards

Jake
 
Looks to be a really interesting tank once you have it set up :D I'll be following your blog to see how it comes along :D
 
Thanks Flute,

Will seem like ages until it's actually up and running, but will hopefully be worth it all in the end.
 
Just had a read through the journal, looking impressive so far! Can't wait to see the finished product.
How are you cycling it?

James.
 
I'm just going to be following the thread found here >> http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/299827-why-we-should-not-fishless-cycle-planted-tanks/

So hopefully everything will work out fine.

Just need to sort out the CO2 system, which is going to be a Fire Extinguisher conversion :D
 
If you have the plant experience, go for it. I would not encourage a plant newbie to try an uncycled planted tank as a home for fish.
 
If you have the plant experience, go for it. I would not encourage a plant newbie to try an uncycled planted tank as a home for fish.

Hmm, any reason for this, or just the fact that chemical problems may occur?

What would you personally suggest I do as I want a planted tank but am a newbie to it?

Cheers
 
Until you have the experience with plants, depending on them to process your nitrogen is chancy at best. I am a fairly experienced plant grower, far from an expert though, and I will not try such a tank arrangement. Instead I find it very easy to clone a filter and then use that cloned filter in a newly planted tank to support my new fish. The cloned filter is my main reason I have some confidence and any benefit from the plants is certainly appreciated. I do use what is called the Walstad method in some of my tanks and see aggressively good plant growth but I do not follow Diana's advice about immediately stocking a new tank. I will go only so far in that direction.
My Walstad style NPT
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Cheers OM,

I will read up on the Walstad method and take notes.

I shall also look into other potential methods of achieving my goal.

Thanks again

Jake
 
To really follow her method would require you to get her book which I did. Unless you are very serious about that method, it can be a bit pricey to buy. Maybe a library would have a copy you could borrow. (Yes I actually mean one of those things they used to print on paper.) There are sections in many plant type forums with titles that will remind you of her approach but there is so much more information in the book itself than you will ever find on line.

The bare bones essence of an NPT is that you place some low fertility dirt or potting soil about an inch deep in the tank and wet it. Then you cover that layer with a moderately coarse gravel layer maybe a half inch thick to allow some water to circulate down to the surface of that soil while keeping the soil from turning to floating mud in the tank. Plant heavily with a variety of plants all at once and use about 2 WPG or more of light, unless you can get some direct sunlight. Some of the plants will thrive and others will not, that is how you choose which ones to keep. In my case at 2 1/2 WPG the vals and cryptocorynes thrived. Don't forget to use surface floating plants along with the plants in the substrate, I use duckweed but others you could use include water lettuce and frogbit. Do not add any fertilizers or CO2 ever. The plants get their food from the fish waste and the minerals in the rare water changes. Make sure you have decent water flow throughout the tank but a filter "is not needed". (I just will not go there)

The method works and I do a water change of about 50% every 6 months or so whether it needs it or not. Last time I did a water change, I measured the nitrates first and found them at around 10 ppm or a bit less. The fish in that tank are among the best and healthiest fish that I have. As you can see from the picture, there is a heavy fish population.
 

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