Is This Stock List Ok?

[bubble87]

is this stock list ok in a 180 litre tank??

(i do not have any of these fish yet i just like to plan ahead)

4 sterbai corys
2 keyhole cichlids
2 pearl gourami
10 neon tetras

 

[nurglespuss]

Hi there,

ignoring capacity for a moment, the only problem I see, is that although keyholes are generally placid, they still get territorial. I would be tempted to up the number of sterbais and pic smaller cichlids?

Just my opinion.

 

[bubble87]

Hi there,

ignoring capacity for a moment, the only problem I see, is that although keyholes are generally placid, they still get territorial. I would be tempted to up the number of sterbais and pic smaller cichlids?

Just my opinion.

thanks for your opinion but im stil going to get the keyholes.i have kept them before with no aggression problems i so im gonna get some more and see how they go.

 

[Wills]

Keyholes will be fine not a problem at all one of the most peaceful cichlids around even for their size there are many smaller that are more aggressive. Even rams and apistos are more aggressive than keyholes.

Stock list looks fine though I would possibly up the number of cories to 6-8

Wills

 

[bubble87]

Keyholes will be fine not a problem at all one of the most peaceful cichlids around even for their size there are many smaller that are more aggressive. Even rams and apistos are more aggressive than keyholes.

Stock list looks fine though I would possibly up the number of cories to 6-8

Wills

thanks will do

 

[VaegaVic]

is this stock list ok in a 180 litre tank??

(i do not have any of these fish yet i just like to plan ahead)

4 sterbai corys - Personally, I would increase this to 8-10, the more the merrier.
2 keyhole cichlids - Lovely, a great choice, I personally prefer dwarf cichlids like Cockatoo in which you can have a 1:2 ratio of M:F, but you've already said you wont change, so no worries
2 pearl gourami - Might want to increase to 3, just to make sure a male has more than one target.
10 neon tetras - Increase to 15 to get a really nice shoal
2 Bristlenose Plecs - Algae munchers.

You've got a nice big tank, might as well use it.

 

[bubble87]

is this stock list ok in a 180 litre tank??

(i do not have any of these fish yet i just like to plan ahead)

4 sterbai corys - Personally, I would increase this to 8-10, the more the merrier.
2 keyhole cichlids - Lovely, a great choice, I personally prefer dwarf cichlids like Cockatoo in which you can have a 1:2 ratio of M:F, but you've already said you wont change, so no worries
2 pearl gourami - Might want to increase to 3, just to make sure a male has more than one target.
10 neon tetras - Increase to 15 to get a really nice shoal
2 Bristlenose Plecs - Algae munchers.

You've got a nice big tank, might as well use it.

thanks for your opinion on the fish i want.i will get more of the fish you mentioned i just wasnt sure if what i wanted originally was overstocked.

 

[N0body Of The Goat]

I would be wary about two BN plecs ina 180 long term. Don't get me wrong, I love their quirkiness, but they do add quite a bioload...

If you want an algae eater, consider things like

• Otos (but give the tank several months to mature after cycling)
• Panda garras ( either do one or a trio, not two, as they can be territorially aggressive with each other... As I've found in my 240, the trio sometimes spark a chain reaction of "musical chairs" amongst themselves with then sometimes starts the Opsarius then playing up)
• Apple Snails? (no knowledge of these guys, but think I read they eat algae)
• Florida Flagfish (but might be an issue with aggression shown to the Pearl Gouramis, or vice versa, needs someone else to step in here with experience)
• Butterfly Goodeids (lovely, slightly less common livebearer. Males reach ~8cm, females ~12cm. Think it would need to at least be a trio with one male (bold yellow/black stripes on caudial fin). LFS would probably snap your hands off for the fry!)
• Hypoptopoma sp. plecs, which include the "Giant Otos" (although they are not of the same genus, reach ~4-7.5cm depending upon species, needs a group of 5+)

 

[VaegaVic]

I would be wary about two BN plecs ina 180 long term. Don't get me wrong, I love their quirkiness, but they do add quite a bioload...

If you want an algae eater, consider things like

• Otos (but give the tank several months to mature after cycling) - Lovely fish, but are really fragile these days due to the way they're farmed (dynamite). Can also be hard to find, not to mention expensive for a small group, let alone the large groups they ideally live in.
• Panda garras ( either do one or a trio, not two, as they can be territorially aggressive with each other... As I've found in my 240, the trio sometimes spark a chain reaction of "musical chairs" amongst themselves with then sometimes starts the Opsarius then playing up) - I cannot find these near me for love nor money, the nearest breeder to me is about 50 miles away and wants £10 per a garra, let alone panda garra. I can't really comment apart from the occasional aggression that you also commented on and perhaps price.
• Apple Snails? (no knowledge of these guys, but think I read they eat algae) - Lovely critters, I breed white ones myself. They do love algae, but you'd need a whole group of them to keep the waste and algae at bay.
• Florida Flagfish (but might be an issue with aggression shown to the Pearl Gouramis, or vice versa, needs someone else to step in here with experience) - American Flags can be very aggressive, especially the males. They also prefer cooler temps of around 22C and can't really be relied on to eat all the algae.
• Butterfly Goodeids (lovely, slightly less common livebearer. Males reach ~8cm, females ~12cm. Think it would need to at least be a trio with one male (bold yellow/black stripes on caudial fin). LFS would probably snap your hands off for the fry!) - Getting more and more common these days and are truly lovely fish, but again, you'd need a large group to keep algae under control, and I personally feel they might detract from the big shoal of neons.
• Hypoptopoma sp. plecs, which include the "Giant Otos" (although they are not of the same genus, reach ~4-7.5cm depending upon species, needs a group of 5+) - Lovely genus which is very closely relate to Bristlenose.

I've always found with BN's, it all comes down to what you feed them. Mine get 2 algae wafers a week, combined with 2 pieces of veg a week, this keeps them nice and plump whilst not producing too much waste. If they get hungry, they just nibble on what ever's left. Thete are a few reasons why I recommended them:
1) Easy to find - somewhat common
2) Relatively cheap to buy - anywhere between £2 for a youngster to £20 for a full adult.
3) Very hardy - built like tanks
4) Great algae eaters - my tanks are spotless thanks to them.
5) Out of the way - They spend most of them time hiding away eating algae and grazing, so they won't detract from the shoals of fish or get in the way of the cory clean up crew. They are also very active though, so if you want to see them, you can.

 

[bubble87]

i will not be getting a pleco

 

[VaegaVic]

i will not be getting a pleco

AWHHH!!
Why?
*sadface*

 

[bubble87]

well im not really keen on them tbh

could i have a male betta with the fish i want?

 

[Wills]

No its best to keep bettas out of community tanks plus it would most likley be problematic with your pearls and not sure how it would be with the keyholes or visa versa

Wills

 

[bubble87]

ok then no betta