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I'm new to bettas, and my betta Alpha is going through a weird phase. He will swim only on one side of the tank, patrolling the glass up and down, left to right, as if he's trying to get a better look at something. But he's not flaring up. Occasionally he swims into the glass, not hard, but like a little dink, becuase he's trying to get close. Then he will flitz to the bottom of the tank and just wallow. He has a betta hammock, and he's used it once before. I actually thought he was dead but a cherry shrimp happened to touch him and he moved. I was concerned, and I did a big water change. I used StressCoat+, but I also have some Seachem Prime on hand. I added some blackwater extract and there are almond leaves in there. He ate today, a good serving of frozen bloodworm. Any advice? Other than that, he seems healthy. His fins are ripped though, from his past life in an ammonia saturated tank, but no visible infection. Appatite is good, and he was swimming in the current when I was doing the water change.
 
Some people aren't up yet lol. I wouldn't worry too much as I've seen many especially tropical fish do it mostly but it doesn't last long. I wish I could tell you why, perhaps when someone wakes up they'll tell you. As far as I know I've never had any fatalities or read of them
 
Ugh anyone!?
It's starting to panic me, he will just lay on the floor in a weird position sometimes his fins won't be moving! He's also taken to wedging himself between the heater and glass, and I think he's burned himself, as he has a faded patch on one side. His eyes are also starting to become opaque, I think he burned his eyes.....
 
IMMA HERE!

My Betta Occo does that sometimes, he just sits on the floor and doesn't do much. Its pretty normal, I like to think that he's having a rest. He also swims up and down the glass and hits it and he's okay otherwise.

I wouldn't worry about it to be honest, if they're aren't any physical signs I wouldn't get to worried. :rolleyes:
 
Well, today, I was feeding him and he only ate one pellet then it seemed like he was struggling to stay at the top and then he just stopped swimming and floated to the bottom where he's laying, breathing, but not moving his fins. His eyes also appear to have cataracts... :no:
 
What size is the tank & does he have any tank mates?
If he's on his own I would lower the water level so he can get up more easily to breathe & do a large water change
Bettas can be weird at times & choose one part of the tank to protect even if he's the only one in there.
Veil tails are notoriously lazy & will rest on plants often for hours, however from what you say something doesn't sound right, especially the eyes
 
I can't really say what's wrong with yours, only got a betta myself a few weeks ago. Mine was in poor condition and layed at the bottom of his cell in the fish shop, but he perked up within 2 hours after I put him in my tank and I am yet to see him laying on the bottom since. Starting coming to me recently too and has become a huge pig for food.
Do you have a filter, heater? Have you tested for ammonia/nitrites? Something is bothering yours for sure. Maybe he is sick, but it is hard to know what. Do some partial water changes in case it's something in the water.

Maybe get a picture up if you can? Someone may know what the issue with the eyes is
 
If he has no reason to move around then he won't.

What is the water temperature?

What are you water conditions?
 
I'm not a beginner here, the water stats came out perfect, no ammonia no nitrite and 0 nitrates. Yes, that sounds impossible, but there are plants and only one fish, so all nitrates are absorbed by the plants. Temps about 76 degrees, he's alone besides three cherry shrimps. It's a 5 gallon Fluval Chi. He's a halfmoon, but he's a rescue from a friend who cleaned his tank once a month and overfed. His fins are ripped, not healing, but not infected.

I'm going to do a large 90% water change tonight, like i do weekly, just to see if he's better. :sad:

Here are some pictures:

Both of his eyes are cloudy, and it happened overnight. I dread to think its bacterial :no: I have been doing nothing but keeping the stats perfect and making sure he eats well.

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Poor thing. His eyes are cloudy and he does look sick :-( :-(
 
Is there anything I can do? :-( :-( :-( I don't wanna lose Alpha...he deserves better....I don't want to get another betta, they might eat the shrimp..... :no:
 
This is what I found about it:

Common Name: Cloudy Eye
Pathogen/Cause: Various organisms (nonspecific), Severe Stress, Malnutrition, Cataracts, Old Age, Hyperproduction of slime due to poisoning, bad water quality, or irritation.
Physical Signs: A cloudy white or grey "haze" over the eyes that may cause blindness.
Behavioral Signs: Associated with loss of vision, also just general signs of lethargy.
Potential Treatment: Investigate if water quality is high first (water changes), then if nutritional needs of that species are being met. Wait at least a week or two before trying any antibiotics, it will often clear on its own if water quality is high.
Other Notes: Frequent water changes a must to improve quality. Test for ammonia, nitrites, nitrates. Cloudy eye is a sign of a number of things, rather than a disease in its own right.


From what I've read, if it's not water quality issue, injury or nutritient problem, then more likely bacterial infection. What do you feed him normally? If he doesn't get better, than maybe a broad range antibiotics medication?
 
This article looks good explaining different types of cloudy eye and treatment:


http://www.nationalfishpharm.com/fish_diseases/eyes.html
 

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