Is This Normal

[chrisrm]

do eartheaters sit on the bottom?

i got 4 but one justs seems to sit around. it swims quite normaly when prompted tho!

 

[star4]

Do you know what sort of earth eaters? is the one on the bottom resting on its fins?

 

[minxfishy]

No its not normal, whilst they do mainly bottom dwell, they are usually fairly active, sifting thru the sand/gravel.

From the looks of your pictures on your new tank set up in tropical discussion, I would say you have either Satanoperca Jurupair or Satanoperca Leucostica, definately not Satanoperca Daemons btw.

 

[chrisrm]

No its not normal, whilst they do mainly bottom dwell, they are usually fairly active, sifting thru the sand/gravel.

From the looks of your pictures on your new tank set up in tropical discussion, I would say you have either Satanoperca Jurupair or Satanoperca Leucostica, definately not Satanoperca Daemons btw.

they were sold tome as Satanoperca Daemons by MA, but they did sell me a GT as a blue acara!

How can i tell what thry really are? more pics?

its just staying in the same place ( the other 3 are really active)

ill try and post a video in a min

 

[minxfishy]

Photos would be good, clear full side shots. I cant see particularly well in the shots on your other thread.

MA usually label all the satanoperca species as either Demon Eartheaters or Geophagus Jurupari. Which isnt very helpful.

 

[star4]

Dont know if this will help when I was trying to id mine

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/337705-fish-id-needed-please/

 

[chrisrm]

heres a video[/url]

i tried to post it directly but it said "You are not allowed to use that image extension on this board"!

 

[minxfishy]

Cant see the video!!

 

[chrisrm]

Cant see the video!!

think i fixed it!

heres some pics

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2

 

[walkers101]

seems to be breathing quite heavy to me

 

[minxfishy]

Ok from that its definately not S.Daemon, look at my signature, ok its adult, but that is a S.Daemon. However, it does look pale, isnt breathing normally and doesnt look at all well.

Any chance of full side on shots of the others for an ID.

 

[chrisrm]

Ok from that its definately not S.Daemon, look at my signature, ok its adult, but that is a S.Daemon. However, it does look pale, isnt breathing normally and doesnt look at all well.

Any chance of full side on shots of the others for an ID.

just posted pic links above!

 

[star4]

hmmm he doesnt look good, breathing really heavily, how long have you had them? The base of the fin looks a little red to me also. Personally I would remove him to a smaller tank and dose with a general antibacterial medication. Your substrate is fine, do you know what it was kept on before, I have read they can get damaged gills from rough or large gravel, that is another possibility.

Looks like a jurupari to me btw.

 

[minxfishy]

Yep Satanoperca Jurupari, which is helpful with the other fish you have, as S.Daemons require a much higher tank temperature and are a more sensitive species.

I suggest as Star4 above, seperate, medicate and if possible, check his gills to see if anything is stuck in them.

 

[star4]

Just discovered how to get the video full screen, looks red in the mouth and around the gills, some sort of bacterial infection I would guess at.