Is my puffer ok?

[Puffer_freak]

Well TBH, you should only be raising it by 1 or 2 points at a time, so it seems that it being 2 is fine.

Trust your hydrometer to measure out rather than just the cups, because it's more accurate and you can tell.

Plus, if you have more water in the tank, it will dillute the amount of salt. Like if you have a glass of orange squash or something.

 

[Pufferpunk]

Although not familiar with the brand of salt you are using, the 2 different brands I have here start to use 1/2 cup/gal to acheive a SG of around 1.023 & to check w/a hydrometer. I use a refractometer.

 

[Kopix Nation]

I don't want to add to much salt because of the plants I don't want to kill them because I am probably going to have to move them into the dutch aquarium along with the angelfish. I am having great results with my banana plant which is said to be hard to grow. Well hard to grow!! YEA RIGHT! This thing is hard to stop growing more like it. Hey can a banana plant be brackish??It will probably be two months before the 125g is here .......Hey I thought F8 got 7" long is he really going to get 7" longWow big puffer. Oh and today I noticed a small round bite taken out of one of my bumblebee's front dorsal... little s*** attacks when I ain't look'n. Butters is on thin ice I am not cruel but my angelfish and gobies have been doing well for three months now and I ain't having a stupid little excuse for a wind bag fish come and turn them into swiss cheese. Butters be careful my oscars are always hungry.... .....JK! But he will have to go back from wenc he came (fish store)

claire

 

[Little Fish]

Trust your hydrometer to measure out rather than just the cups, because it's more accurate and you can tell.

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I think you have a point. Pufferpunk might refer a cup as a standard 8oz measuring cup. The cup that comes with the salt mix does seem larger than 8oz. How silly of me to think anyone would know the exact size of a cup that comes with a particular brand of salt mix

I totally agree with you that measuring equipment should be used. I bought 2 hydrometers from mail order but found out they only measure from 1.010 up. Then I read an article that said hydrometers, even if they measure from 1.000 up, are not particularly accurate at the low ranges. May be with the exception of the expensive $40 floating ones (not the $6.99 floating ones). So I scoped up a refractometer when it was on sale. I guess I will be very careful with the salt/water ratio until I get a better handle of this particular brand of salt mix.

 

[Little Fish]

Oh and today I noticed a small round bite taken out of one of my bumblebee's front dorsal... little s*** attacks when I ain't look'n. Butters is on thin ice I am not cruel but my angelfish and gobies have been doing well for three months now and I ain't having a stupid little excuse for a wind bag fish come and turn them into swiss cheese. Butters be careful my oscars are always hungry.... .....JK! But he will have to go back from wenc he came (fish store)

claire

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I know GSPs are poisonous but not quite sure about the F8s. Your Oscars might get more than they bargain for if you really put them in the same tank

Two of my F8s lost parts of their fins when I got them. I'm treating them with Melafix because I heard this medication is excellent for damaged fins. May be you can try it on your Bumble Bee Goby.

It's just the puffers' nature to nip fins of other fishes or each other. I think you made the right decision to send Butters back to the fish store. Some people like varieties in their tanks and some people (like me) would rather clear the tank of other species and keep the puffers. It's just a matter of personal preferrence. I sent 1 true SAE and 1 flying fox that helped me dealt with my algae problem back to the fish store before I introduced the F8s into the tank. My friend think I'm crazy to give the SAE back for free. Not because it is expensive but because the real ones are hard to come by. She would have taken the SAE if she does not have big Koi in her tank.

 

[Kopix Nation]

Well i am not giving him back to the store yet.... He is just so cute!! I am going to look online for some 125g at a good price. I should start considering moving him to a small 6g that I once used as a sick fish tank. Would he be fine in there?That is if I can't find a 125g soon.

claire

 

[Kopix Nation]

hey anyone heard of colomesus asellus? also is a figure eight puffer tetraodon palembangensis? or is that a close relitive? Maybe I should make the 20 into a puffer and gobie tank... that would work out right??? I would have to ether move the mollies in with the angelfish or have them get malled by the puffers....ah they can get malled...my angelfish don't like them anyway. Also they need salt and my angelfish don't. Archerfish need big tanks right?

claire

 

[pica_nuttalli]

hey anyone heard of colomesus asellus?

yup. fully freshwater, most eat flake/pellets, grows to be about 3", can keep multiple individuals together in heavily planted tanks. still not suited to a community aquarium however. most individuals require teeth-trimming about ever 6 weeks or so.

also is a figure eight puffer tetraodon palembangensis? or is that a close relitive?

no and not especially. palembangensis is a large (8") freshwater ambush predator and is quite aggressive. f-8s (Tetraodon biocellatus) are small brackish active hunters and can range from docile to vicious.

Maybe I should make the 20 into a puffer and gobie tank... that would work out right???

depends on the puffers and the gobies. each species of puffer has its own unique requirements and hangups. f8s can be kept with tough bottom dwellers, fahakas need 200 gallons for a single individual, and dwarf puffers need 5g per puff. i suggest you take a look around www.pufferlist.com--just remember "lurker" and "ambush predator" mean "puffer hides 90% of the time".

you can't mix freshwater and brackish fish.

I would have to ether move the mollies in with the angelfish or have them get malled by the puffers....ah they can get malled...my angelfish don't like them anyway. Also they need salt and my angelfish don't.

mollies can be kept in either fresh or brackish. it's really up to you. but don't keep anything with a puffer that you wouldn't want eaten. puffers are timebombs in a community setting. some people mind this, other people don't.

Archerfish need big tanks right?

yep.

 

[Little Fish]

I should start considering moving him to a small 6g that I once used as a sick fish tank. Would he be fine in there?That is if I can't find a 125g soon.

claire

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I'm not an expert in puffers and I'm still learning...especially after my less than successful rescue mission of 4 dwarf puffers. Well that is another story, back to your question. Most of the forums and articles that I read about the F8 suggest 10G per fish. However, that is if you stock more than one per tank. I think you will be able to get by with the 6G tank, at least temporarily. It seems like you will be out of options anyway if Butters keeps attacking his tankmates. Personally, I would not use anything smaller than a 10G for a 3" puffer permanently. I don't think a filter with decent flow will fit anything smaller. Even if it does, it may generate too much water current in the tank. A smaller tank with a puffer but without strong filtration does not leave much margain for errors. When water quality deteriorates, it might turns deadly faster than you can correct the problem.

 

[Kopix Nation]

I want to show you guys a picture of Butters but I don't know how I need help please.

claire

 

[Kopix Nation]

Butters is turning my dwarf lily into swiss cheese! There are little circles cute perfectly into the leaves. Of course he is not eating them just biting it and spiting out the pieces. oh well...

claire

 

[Little Fish]

Yeah, they like to do that. My Java Ferns are becoming like Madagascar Lace plants. My F8s even have the skills to bite holes on some of my Corkscrew Vals without breaking the leaves off. The Red Mangroves are untouched because only the stems are under water. I heard that Anabius stand a better chance because it has thicker leaves.

My three F8s never stop fighting during feeding time. However, it doesn't look like they bite each other. It seems like they are just bumping each other away. No damaged fins or bite marks. A couple of days ago, 2 of them chased each other's tail in very tight circles for 3 minutes. It almost looked like they were dancing.

 

[Kopix Nation]

Funny
He seems to be taste testing all the plants! Hey are banana plants able to adapt to brackish water. Just asking cause they look like they could take it. Butters still is not being a devil yet sept to the plants and that is ok. He will figure it out one of these days that plants don't taste good. I love my Butter-scotch! He is so cute!!!!!I am sooooooo glade I did not get that 4" neon puffer ooooo that would have been very interesting.....

claire


Hey you guys how do you get that writing that is under the post? You know the funny saying and pictures of stuff that appears on the bottom of the post? How do i do that?

 

[Little Fish]

Someone told me Banana Plants are actually brackish plant. I was too lazy to verify that. I never have any luck with them in freshwater anyway. They will grow leaves but within weeks the new leaves will turn yellow and die. However, more new leaves will grow and then wither and die. May be I will drop my last 2 Banana Plants in the brackish tank and see if they fare any better. The "Bananas" seems tough enough but the leaves are not stronger than Dwarf Lily's. I'll let you know if my F8s would punch holes on their leaves.

Neon puffers? I never heard of them. How do they look like?

 

[Kopix Nation]

They also were called Minuis Muinis something like that puffer. But they where big bright spring green and looked kinda like a triger but it was in wit some cichlids. It was derfentily freshwater or brakish.It was not small ether!4" long I was going to get it but Butters just had that look.The neon puffer was a puffer because it had the hummingbird fins and the submarine like body. And a small little mouth. It was so cute!!!!!I don't think it is a friendly fish though.
My Banana plant is doing great!Those things are hardy little buggers for me.Butters taste tests the leaves. He is so cute!


claire

I think I am going to move the angelfish into the 6g if Butters turns evil (which he has not yet).