Is Dan Blowing Smoke?

[gwand]

Dan’s Fish outlet is one of the premier, well respected fish stores in the USA. Dan has shipped me exquisite fish on numerous occasions. However he has the following posted on his website:

“Our pH measures around 8.3 with a KH and GH a bit over 300ppm. That being said, we want to caution folks with different water parameters from thinking that they need to change their water for our fish. We have many customers in the Pacific Northwest, Upstate New York, and other areas that have very soft water. Our fish do just fine in their water without any parameter matching. What is most important is that the water our fish are put in upon arrival have steady parameters, not that your water parameters match ours.”

If Dan turns over his soft water livestock very rapidly I assume the soft water fish being shipped to homes with soft water should do just fine. However I doubt that his or any shippers hard water fish will thrive in a home with soft water.

Get real, Dan.

 

[MaloK]

If the water is really a bit over GH 300 ppm and KH 300 ppm then...

There's no wonder why the soft water fishes thrives once you get them out of there....

 

[sharkweek178]

I live in a soft water area. Every fish store in the area sells guppies, mollies and other hard water fish. They don't care.

 

[jaylach]

Since Dan's draws his water from a creek that runs behind my apartments I DO know that it is liquid rock.

 

[Jinx_]

I live in a soft water area. Every fish store in the area sells guppies, mollies and other hard water fish. They don't care.

Money

 

[Magnum Man]

when I 1st started buying from him, I read or was told, he has a water treatment system, before he puts the water back to the creek, it wouldn't surprise me, if it's also not treated before it goes in his tanks

 

[jaylach]

when I 1st started buying from him, I read or was told, he has a water treatment system, before he puts the water back to the creek, it wouldn't surprise me, if it's also not treated before it goes in his tanks

Yes, it is heavily treated before getting to the tanks but not for GH or KH. Huge canister filters for sediment and goes through Ultra Violet treatments.

Here is a quick video of the system.

 

[anewbie]

Since Dan's draws his water from a creek that runs behind my apartments I DO know that it is liquid rock.

Dan is stealing your water !

 

[jaylach]

Dan is stealing your water !

HUH? Can't say that I understands that as all water Dan gets he gives back in better condition. Actually the creek is part of a nature reserve but he was given permission to use due to his water treatment.

 

[MuddyWaters]

when I 1st started buying from him, I read or was told, he has a water treatment system, before he puts the water back to the creek, it wouldn't surprise me, if it's also not treated before it goes in his tanks

he came and talked at our club. They treat the water as it comes in, and treat it again before they put it back. They don't change the PH, though. I buy everything I can from them. It's expensive and I hate paying shipping, but they are the absolute best cared for fish - I have rummynose tetras I got from Dan's and some I got locally- you can easily tell the difference. The ones bought locally are very stunted compared to Dan's - his are big and beautiful- you can tell they were well cared for as fry.

 

[jaylach]

he came and talked at our club. They treat the water as it comes in, and treat it again before they put it back. They don't change the PH, though. I buy everything I can from them. It's expensive and I hate paying shipping, but they are the absolute best cared for fish - I have rummynose tetras I got from Dan's and some I got locally- you can easily tell the difference. The ones bought locally are very stunted compared to Dan's - his are big and beautiful- you can tell they were well cared for as fry.

Yes you can be assured that any fish he ships is healthy. He even has a marine biologist under contract that I assume is from a local college. This person takes a fish from each incoming shipment bag and euthanizes and then autopsies to check for fin/scale issues along with organ degeneration and parasites.

I am fortunate in that Dan's warehouse is right next to my apartments so I just walk over to pick up fish without having to pay any shipping. Only other real option in Sheridan is a local Petco and I would pay shipping before I would buy anything live, except some foods, from Petco since a contaminated moss ball killed my entire take a while back.