Insult to injury

[paulthegreat]

Well, I do not know what triggered it but I have gotten an Ich outbreak. I noticed some white spots on Morris last night and today when I got home from work one of the triplets was showing some spots on her fins. I went to the store I recently bought my new fish from and their tanks show no signs of ich. Maybe it was caused by the deaths of Fiskis II, a neon and the new male black Swordie within a five days time. My water was tested clean about 35ml/l nitrate so that was not the problem and the addition of the new fish was too recent to have had such a fast outbreak. I did a 40% water change and began a med treatment using Fauna Mor (comes from Germany). Any other advice(I have read the pinned article on ich)?

 

[WILDER]

Stress of the move could of caused and outbreak that all i can think of, could of had it in the tank at the lfs and the stress triggered it off in your tank.

 

[afireinside]

Wait, fish can get ich by getting stressed?

 

[WILDER]

http/cichlid-forum.com/articles/ich.php

 

[afireinside]

Very informative, thnx Wilder

 

[paulthegreat]

Very informative Wilder, Thank you!,

I would like to add some extra info at this time. As said before I had added three black Swordies to my tank and the male died in less than 18 hours no signs of sickness or injury, about 36 hours later I noticed a few white dots on my orange male they were in a nearly straight line so I thought it may have been a scratch. I then noticed, 24 hours later, one of the females had white dots on her tail and back fin. Before the addition of these three Black Swords the last addition of new fish was January 14th, 3 Yoyo loaches. I have re-introduced a few Swordtail juveniles(about two months ago) and all of the original Swords(the parent fish) have died. I have never seen any signs of ich before.

Today I did a 40% water change with gravel vac. Scrubbed all the major decor in hot water and cleaned the filter in part of the change water. I raised the temp from 79F-81F and added the meds as instructed(1ml-100l). The med is called fauna mor which contains:

2.5mg tetramethyl-thionine chloride,
1.0mg tetramethyl-4,4-diamino-triphenyl-carbinole,
0.5mg hexamethyl-parrosaniline chloride,
0.3mg arciflavine chloride/ml

I also removed another neon that was developing a bent spine and added a teaspoon of pure mediterrainian sea salt (no anti-clumping or other additives).
I have not been adding salt to this tank because of the Yoyo loaches, but the grow-out tank gets a regular dose of salt and the juvies are doing well and there are a hell of a lot less pest snails in that tank!

 

[WILDER]

Don't like the sound of the bent spine as that can mean fish tb.

 

[WILDER]

Just in case read this.

http/www.4qd.org/Aqua/disease/tb.html

 

[paulthegreat]

The neons have been in the tank for a year now and one died recently and I plucked the other with the bent spine out before the water change and beginning treatment, I started with ten. The first that died was swimming straight up and down head up and went quick the second was starting to do the same and died over night it was a couple months between those deaths and the last was a couple months ago(of those two). I had not observed this in the last death and removed the fourth before it went any further.

 

[WILDER]

Good just do some water changes,they didn't lose there colour in the red stripe area did they, as the can get a bent spine i think with neon tetra desease.

 

[paulthegreat]

No color loss that I can recall and none of the other symptoms listed in the TB article, they(the last two) where not acting unusual but the one that died was a bit more bent and I had thought about removing it, but did not want to stress the other fish by trying to catch it since it was getting late and my tank is heavily planted so it is hard to single out a certain fish.

 

[paulthegreat]

Super Thanks to you for the advice and help Wilder The Ich has cleared up and I have one more treatment to do on Monday to get the dirty little hatchlings. Then it will be wait and see if the meds worked. All of the fish are looking alert and active and were very glad to be fed again after a few days without food.

 

[WILDER]

Great news, good luck.