Ideal Set Up!

djl08

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Hi all, just wondering if someone would take time to explain to me everything i need to start my tropical freshwater aquarium. Tank, filter, lighting etc.

If you could provide links to the type of stuff i need it would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Dan


P.S, i have limited space so would probably only have room for a 60L tank, 60 x 35 x 32
 
Hey

There are far more experienced people on here than me who I'm sure can cover this in more detail, but I'll try and help anyway :)

Do you already have a tank or are you going to get one? I say that because certain tanks come with certain things that are required.

For instance I have one of these:

http://www.reef-one.com/biUbe-Pure

and that came with the ceramic media/filter, the lights, thermometer, heater, the air pump and various chemicals (filter start for if you were to cycle without fish and also a bottle of dechlorinator).

For the fishless cycle you will need a bottle of ammonia as well.

In addition to that I would invest in a large bucket for water changes and a siphon of some kind. Also testing kits for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and PH.

However I also have a 200L tank which came with a lot of the same stuff but needed to buy some of the extras.

Basically you need to tick these things off the list:

  • a tank
  • a heater
  • a filter
  • lights
  • a thermometer
  • a testing kit
  • dechlorinator
  • something to start the cycle (fish/filter start/bottle of ammonia)
  • a bucket
  • gravel/substrate
  • an air pump (a 60L tank may not require one but a small air pump would be nice for the fish I think)
  • FISH

I think thats about it to start with anyway. You will obviously want to decorate your tank but that is entirely up to you!

Some of those things (maybe all if your lucky) will come with the tank you buy, if not you need to check them off. A lot of them will depend on the tank you have.

I hope that helps, and as I said there are a lot of very experienced people on here who will be able to go into more detail if you need it...
 
There are many items that are common to all aquariums, whether they be 1 gallon or 1000 gallons. If I may, I'd like to look at your question from a different angle. If you were going to buy a dog, you'd probably want to know what sort of dog you were going before you went out and bought it it's bed and food bowl etc. So I'd like to aproach your new venutre from the same stand point.

Have you seen any fish that you particularly like?
Do you want to keep a mixture of different fish from all over the world or do you want to keep fish all fromt he same area?

I know you might not be sure what fish you want at this point, but it's worth getting a feel for what is available to you and what appeals. This will hopefully save you buying an aquarium and thinking "oh I really want one of those!" only to find out your tank is too shallow or too narrow or too short or has the wrong substrate or has the wrong sorts of rocks and plants in there.

Kind regards

Jimi
 
Jimi makes a very good point there. Since you've titled this as "Ideal Set Up" its probably worth noting that if you have the patience and a bit of extra time then there are perhaps a couple of considerations that are ideal to make -prior- to settling on a tank size and shape: 1) type of fish/aquascape desired and 2) effect of tank size on ease of fishkeeping.

The first one is the one Jimi's talking about - figuring out if you want to begin with typical community freshwater tropical fish or whether you want to attempt a "species" tank or some other more unusual thing like that. Even the choices of species within a typical community tank ideally require some individual consideration with respect to tank size and other environmental issues. A typical way to approach this is to start making lists of fish you like. It helps to make notes when you visit your LFS and then to follow up here about each fish on the list.

The second pre-tank-purchase issue to cover is the fact that larger volumes of water (up to a point, lol!) are actually easier on the beginning fishkeeper than small ones are. The simple fact is that larger volumes dilute things more and give the beginner a longer period of time to recognize when there's a water problem. Those problems are often slower to happen in a larger volume too. More water is just more forgiving.

On the other hand, as you move past various break-points, say, 55 US gallons or 75 US gallons, the physical aspects get harder. The tank itself is heavier. Its filled weight is heavier. Water changes become more lengthy, etc. Everything becomes more costly. For beginners, I often think there is a bit of a "sweet spot" in the 20 to 40 US gallon range. On a hobbyist forum like TFF, many will urge the new fishkeeper to "go as large as you can" but I'd say to do it with thought. OK, so what does that mean to you? Well, it means to think hard about your 60L/16G limit you've mentioned in your post. Is there any way you could push that upward, say to 25g or 100 liters or so? This might buy you a better beginning experience in my opinion. On the other hand, that's not to scare you from the hobby, as a 16g can be great fun if that's truly all the space/money you can deal with at the moment, but think hard about it.

Meanwhile, one other thing you can be doing that goes at the overall question you've posted here is to begin reading our "Beginners Resource Center." Here you'll find things written up about startup, by Miss Wiggle and various water topics by BTT and rabbut and others and finally our "working document" on the all-important topic of Fishless Cycling, written and maintained by RDD. These readings will help give you a baseline for your questions here in your thread, and of course, read and participate in other beginner's threads as that's fun and gets you a lot of other experience.

~~waterdrop~~ :)
 
Hmm you've certainly given me a lot to think about water drop. As fishkeeping is something ive wanted to do for a while now, i want to get it right first time, and not learn the 'hard' way. Going by what you have said, i guess the next step for me is to visit my LFS's and check out what they have to offer, i want to start off with something simple, nothing to demanding and something a beginner would manage easily. Perhaps something along the lines of neon tetra's (mainly because my girlfriend likes the look of them), ive heard they are quite a hardy species and would be ideal for a beginner to learn the ropes.

What would you suggest?

Dan
 
I'd steer clear of neon tetras in a new setup. They really don't seem to like "non-matured" water. There are many other lovely tetra out there that would be fine though.
 
Neon (or the very similar Cardinal) tetras are a wonderful choice for a fish to like and to have as one of your goals as a beginner. They are one of the tropical fish that really kicked off the hobby in the 1920's is what I've read and the stunning colors attract even more attention in the larger shoals that they like to be in.

The only problem is that they happen to be odd in a couple of ways. Unlike what you heard, they can be pretty fragile and most people find it next to impossible for a whole batch that's brought home to "make it." Separate from that, they are also very sensitive to water in an odd way. They seem to survive much better if a tank has aged 4 to 6 months (!) from being new and it doesn't seem to have much to do with it being cycled, just that its aged after being cycled. So our usual advice is to wait that time period before introducing them and you will have much more successful chances. If you follow that though, you may then find that they can be pretty hardy little fish and they will grow and be happy and hold their own quite nicely in a varied community tank.

Now as far as other suggestions, I'm a bit reluctant sometimes to put species names to people as it often works out better for you to poke around and toss out various fish that strike your fancy, just as you did with neons, and then let the members go at it with all the bits they know about that species and perhaps how it interacts with other species. The process of narrowing down to the ideal fish for *you* can be long and hard work, but its a great activity to do during the long weeks of fishless cycling or prior to having a setup.

~~waterdrop~~
 

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