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Well, I have had my tank setup for about a week now, and to be honest I have to say I bought these plants because the wife and I liked them, and they each seemed the right size for where I wanted them in the tank.
Now the taller one (1) seems to be getting brown slime on it's leaves, and the shorter one in (2) seems to be losing leaves that are going mushy, so I thought now would be a good time to get them id-ed so I can find out what sort of conditions they like!

Thanks in advance, now here come the plants!

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(2)
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Hi :)

The first one will grow like stink... if you whip it out of the tank and put it in a pot on your windowsill. :blush: The second plant is also highly unlikely to be aquatic as it has variegated leaves. Couldn't tell you about the last one but someone will be along in a minute who can identify it I'm sure.
 
Hi :)

The first one will grow like stink... if you whip it out of the tank and put it in a pot on your windowsill. :blush: The second plant is also highly unlikely to be aquatic as it has variegated leaves. Couldn't tell you about the last one but someone will be along in a minute who can identify it I'm sure.

:( Not looking good for starters then...

Not impressed if this turns out to be the case, as my 'local' fish shop sold all of these as aquatic plants, (indeed they had them all growing(?) in tanks), and charged me £15 for the 6 plants, (2 of each type), not sure how that is cost wise, but certainly won't be impressed with them if 4/6 turn out not to be aquatics! :angry:

Still, best to know now I guess, at least I can whip them out if needed before they die and the wife can have some new pot plants for the window!
 
Not impressed if this turns out to be the case, as my 'local' fish shop sold all of these as aquatic plants, (indeed they had them all growing(?) in tanks), and charged me £15 for the 6 plants, (2 of each type), not sure how that is cost wise, but certainly won't be impressed with them if 4/6 turn out not to be aquatics! :angry:

If they were advertising these as aquarium plants then I would be lodging a complaint, especially as that's a fair amount of money to have spent on them only to find that they are not fit for purpose. Have you looked into buying plants online? I've had good success with ordering from Greenline (http://www.aquaticplants.eu.com/) and Plants Alive (http://www.plantsalive.co.uk/). My last order comprised of about 9 potted bunches of easy-grow plants like Egeria Densa, Cabomba etc. and it came to £15.14 including delivery. :)
 
The first two are both non-aquatic for sure. I'd take them back and ask for a refund if I were you and then never shop there again as they know nothing about plants or were just trying to rip you off. Either way its not a place you want to shop if you can help it.

Third one looks to be aquatic but I'm not exactly sure what one it is.

FYI a good tip for finding out if a plant is a true aquatic or not is whether is stands upright when out of the water. Most aquatic plants have adapted to use the water for support and consequently flop over when out of the water. Terrestrial plants support their own weight out of the water. Common exceptions to this are the hygrophila species and Anubis species, but other than that its a good guide for perhaps 90% of aquatic plants.

Sam
 
The first two plants aren't aquarium plants, as has been pointed out, I have them (in pots, not in a tank). The third one looks like it should be but I'm certainly not an expert!

It depends how big they are if £15 for 6 is reasonable, for a houseplant, aquatic plants are usually much cheaper than that I've found and there are some truly gorgeous ones out there so you'll find some you like.
 
The first two plants aren't aquarium plants, as has been pointed out, I have them (in pots, not in a tank). The third one looks like it should be but I'm certainly not an expert!

It depends how big they are if £15 for 6 is reasonable, for a houseplant, aquatic plants are usually much cheaper than that I've found and there are some truly gorgeous ones out there so you'll find some you like.

The (1)'s are about 30cm tall, and the (2)'s at a guess are about 10cm tall. The (3)'s were about 15cm tall, but have shot up to around 25cm now in just the short time they've been in the tank, the growth of them is truely astounding, (possibly due to the added ammonia for fishless cycling?)

Annoyed about the first 2 types though... do we have a 'named and shamed' area if these are 'land' plants, or can I just post the supplier here?
 
We dont have a name and shame area as 95% of the LFS in the UK would be on it! :lol:

The growth of the third plant could well be due to the fishless cycle. Plants love NH3 as a food source. So do algae so I would watch for that as well and reduce the lighting length and/or amount if you start to see it.

Sam
 
The first and second as have been said aren't aquatic. The first is dracaena I believe. Not sure on the second.

The third looks a bit like Ceratopteris thalictroides (indian fern). Not really sure if it is though but it looks along those lines. Either that or maybe Limnophila sessiflora?
 
The first and second as have been said aren't aquatic. The first is dracaena I believe. Not sure on the second.

The third looks a bit like Ceratopteris thalictroides (indian fern). Not really sure if it is though but it looks along those lines. Either that or maybe Limnophila sessiflora?

The first is indeed a Dracaena, Dracaena sanderiana most likely. Plant #2 is probably Fittonia verschaffeltii. If they haven't been there long, try taking them out and planting them. They are nice houseplants, very hardy.

The third one is more difficult, but I am wavering between the two you've suggested. Depends on where the plants were purchased. I've seen Ceratopteris in most LFS, Limnophila species are more of a tall order. This may be different, however, depending on where you live.

llj
 
The first and second as have been said aren't aquatic. The first is dracaena I believe. Not sure on the second.

The third looks a bit like Ceratopteris thalictroides (indian fern). Not really sure if it is though but it looks along those lines. Either that or maybe Limnophila sessiflora?

The first is indeed a Dracaena, Dracaena sanderiana most likely. Plant #2 is probably Fittonia verschaffeltii. If they haven't been there long, try taking them out and planting them. They are nice houseplants, very hardy.

The third one is more difficult, but I am wavering between the two you've suggested. Depends on where the plants were purchased. I've seen Ceratopteris in most LFS, Limnophila species are more of a tall order. This may be different, however, depending on where you live.

llj

Hmmm... I've looked up the ones you mentioned:

(1) Dracaena_sanderiana

Well the leaves seem right, but mine has no evidence of the bamboo section, nor any sign that there ever was one...
 
Ok, I managed to find one label for the plants in (1), and it is "Dracaena Sanderiana White"

Now I am confused though, the label shows it as being from www.aquafleur.com.

If I go to their website there is this, which seems to say it is fine as an aquarium plant:
Ok for aquarium?

and yet I've also stumbled across this on another website, which on the third page, under code "6008" has it listed as non-aquatic:
No good for aquarium?

It also seems that same document has my plant (2) listed under code "6010" as Fittonia White, again non-aquatic, and yet the aquafluer website yet again lists it as an aquarium plant:
Fittonia White

I was hoping that I would find something to take to my LFS and show them that they weren't aquatic plants, but it seems even the 'source supplier', Aquafluer, says that they are, and it's the community forums that say that they are not, (which to be honest I am more inclined to trust, but I can see the LFS siding with the 'manuafacturer')

As a side note, this seems to be a fairly good resource for finding plants:

ThinkFish.co.uk
 
Lots of plants will survive underwater for a bit of time, some plants will stay alive for ages under water and others will die quickly. Putting non-aquatic plants in a fish tank happens a lot, people just replace them when they die.

Personally I wouldn't do that to the plant!
 

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