How To Hatch Bbs For Livebearer Fry?

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Hey guys. Can I just get some EXTREMELY simple instructions on how to hatch BBS please? I have a mental block with instructions, so they'll need to be step by step. Also, please tell me how long the BBS are babies for (till they grow up and die?), if the fry can still eat them when they're dead, and how to store them and keep them alive. (And how much to make every time for approx. 50 fry.)

Thanks! :good:
 
Do u have a hatcher?

If not get a 2 ltr pop bottle cut the bottom off and turn up side down.
Either drill a hole for an air line through the lid and glue in or glue a air line into the bottom.

Half fill with water and add............ my mental block know think it 2 or 3 tea spoon's of pure salt not table salt.
Add a half tea spoon of egg's and aerate.
After 24 hours they will of hatched.

If you turn off the aeration and stand for 3-4 mins you should now see the orange shrimp around the bottom.
Just syphon them of and sieve though a cloth to wash in clean water to remove any salt.

Return the water and aerate again.
The best shrimp are the fish batch, as after that they start to use up their reserves, at 3 days olf they are pointless as they would of used up 95% and then will die if not feed green water.
 
Okay, thanks. That pretty much makes sense, but a couple more questions, how am I supposed to get the 2L pop bottle to stand up on its lid, especially when there is airline tubing sticking inside? Am i supposed to hold it for 24 hours? lol
What happens if I DON'T have aeration? Will the eggs not hatch?
How long do the rest of the eggs last for if you don't use them right away?
And, how come you can't just hatch them like you do with sea monkeys? Put them in that little container, put in that "water purifier" thing, and then let them hatch.
And can you use aquarium salt?
Thanks.
 
Okay, thanks. That pretty much makes sense, but a couple more questions, how am I supposed to get the 2L pop bottle to stand up on its lid, especially when there is airline tubing sticking inside? Am i supposed to hold it for 24 hours? lol

Most peeps make a little rack up out of wood or something to hold it

What happens if I DON'T have aeration? Will the eggs not hatch?

Yep you got it

How long do the rest of the eggs last for if you don't use them right away?

In a freezer Years
Room temp. several months to a couple of years, the longer you leave it the less hatch

And, how come you can't just hatch them like you do with sea monkeys? Put them in that little container, put in that "water purifier" thing, and then let them hatch.

You can if u hatch a few dozen at a time

And can you use aquarium salt?
Thanks.
yes
 
The way i have always done it is..

Take a 2ltr bottle, Dont cut bottom off, just drill a a hole in the screw on top for the airline tube and put airstone on end right to the bottom, attach a clamp on the airline outside of the bottle (this is for use later).

Fill the bottle 3/4 of the way

Poor in about 3 table spoons of aquarium salt

Add your brine shrimp eggs.

Leave in a warm place with the airpump on full.

I use to put my bottle in my fish tank (this way they get heat and light, and mine always hatched within 20 hours, with a hughe sucess hatching rate.


When hatched, clamp the airline, turn the bottle upside down (i use to balance mine on sink with the drainer) wait about 5 mins for it to settle, all the hatched eggs will float to the top.

After the 5 minutes, put a tub underneath and release the clamp and let it flow in the tub, The more orange the better ;), after u have a sufficiant amount in the tub, let the tub stand for 5-10 mins and shringe out what ya need.


Easy peasy fishy squeezy :p
 
Hey 5teady, haven't seen ya around in a while, welcome back!

You've gotten some good info here, I can tell you what I do & why to hatch bbs, plus add a bit of info.

The trick with the inverted bottle is to take advantage of the ciuved top, now bottom. This insured constant circulation, no place for them to settle, which gives a much better hatch rate. I find it easier to use two bottles, cut the bottom of of one to use for the base, with a few rocks added for weight. Use a second, with the bottom cut off, inverted, for hatching in. A picture is worth a thousand and that; http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=136880&hl=

I run the air line from the top, with a stainless steel nut on the end to weigh it down. No air stone, I tried that long ago & found the brine tears it up in no time. My water has a pH of around 7.7, gH of about 180 out of the tap. To that amount of water in the pic, which is about 1 1/2 liters, I add two tablespoons of salt, one teaspoon of baking soda, and 3 drops of bleach. I can hatch up to 1 teaspoon in a setup like that any more & I get a reduced hatch rate. For 60 fry 1/8 to 1/4 teaspoon is plenty.

At 80F I get a good hatch in 24 hours. I pull the air line, put the hatcher on the table, and shine a light at the bottom. After 5 minutes they have settled, and are all near the light. I use a turkey baster to remove the brine shrimp, they go with brine solution into a 1 cup container. You will have a bunch of shells on the top when you try to remove the bbs. Rub your nose, touch the surface of the water, this reduces surface tension, the shells all go to the side. Skin oils, little trick.

To feed I have a plastic cup with a coffee filter rubber banded to the top. I pull the bbs out of the container with a large dropper, and rinse with tap water, then feed. The rest go in the fridge for feedings throughout the next 24 hours. I change out the water in the hatcher daily.

Don't skimp on the aeration, you want them constantly suspended. A lower temperature will take longer to hatch, you can go slightly warmer for a shorter period, above about 84F they get nasty fast, bacteria. The bleach is nothing more than chlorine, airs out in less than 24 hours, another bacteria reducing trick. Look into decaps, bleach is used for this; http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=280662&hl=

You can freeze any extra as well, I do this when I'm out of town for any length of time, son feeds the fish. Rince well with tap water, place in a ziplock bag, press out the air. Lay this flat on a small pan & freeze, one frozen you can remove the pan.
 
Wow. Good info, thank you very much. Is it okay if the bottle is tinted, like a 7-Up bottle?
That was all I had for empty bottles. :blush:
I honestly was stupid and put the bottle right side up, because I heard that it worked that way as well, you just wouldn't get a very good hatch rate.
And for anybody who is a beginner, like me, and can't really follow word instructions, this is a GREAT video! :good:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uNkHPuGaqo...re=channel_page" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uNkHPuGaqo...re=channel_page</a>
A-M-A-Z-I-N-G! :rolleyes:

BTW, this is what the "hatchery" looks like:
103_2982.jpg (1.3 MB)
I think it will work, but I probably won't get much BBS hatching in the first attempt. Oh well. I still have A LOT of eggs! :lol:

Well, thanks for all the help! :good:
Seriously, couldn't of done it without ya'! :lol:

Oh, BTW, can I harvest some brine shrimp when some of them hatch, and then start up the aeration and then let the rest hatch, and use them a couple of hours or so later? JW. Thanks.
 
Wow. Good info, thank you very much. Is it okay if the bottle is tinted, like a 7-Up bottle?
That was all I had for empty bottles. :blush:
I honestly was stupid and put the bottle right side up, because I heard that it worked that way as well, you just wouldn't get a very good hatch rate.
And for anybody who is a beginner, like me, and can't really follow word instructions, this is a GREAT video! :good:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uNkHPuGaqo...re=channel_page" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uNkHPuGaqo...re=channel_page</a>
A-M-A-Z-I-N-G! :rolleyes:

BTW, this is what the "hatchery" looks like:
103_2982.jpg (1.3 MB)
I think it will work, but I probably won't get much BBS hatching in the first attempt. Oh well. I still have A LOT of eggs! :lol:

Well, thanks for all the help! :good:
Seriously, couldn't of done it without ya'! :lol:

Oh, BTW, can I harvest some brine shrimp when some of them hatch, and then start up the aeration and then let the rest hatch, and use them a couple of hours or so later? JW. Thanks.


That looks fine to me, i have always stood my bottle up the correct way cos as long there is a good airflow in the bottle, it will work just has good as upside down.

But anyways, forget bbs, i just want to come and dive in your pool lol.


Hey tolak, thanks mate, hope your well :)
 
That looks fine to me, i have always stood my bottle up the correct way cos as long there is a good airflow in the bottle, it will work just has good as upside down.
Okay, good. What happens if it gets too hot? Will the BBS die? Cause I didn't realize I'd wake up that late, and it was still in my window in the morning, and the bottle was cooking... :blush:

But anyways, forget bbs, i just want to come and dive in your pool lol.
Come on over than! :lol: jk. :rolleyes:

Hey tolak, thanks mate, hope your well :)
 
Okay, please help!!!! :crazy:
My brine shrimp are barely hatching, there's a couple hundred that hatched out of like, a million (?) eggs...! And the brine shrimp are WHITE!?
I fed some to my fish, and they LOVED that, but I also got a bunch of eggs in the tank by accident!
The fry ate some!!! :blink:


What do I do?
Are they going to be okay?
What did I do wrong????? :sick:
 
They'll be fine. Unhatched eggs & shells have been proven to be no issue other than creating a mess in the tank after a while.
 
They'll be fine. Unhatched eggs & shells have been proven to be no issue other than creating a mess in the tank after a while.
Okay, phew! Even if the babies eat them, it will be fine than, right?
I have more brine shrimp now, (half/half) more are hatching every minute now.
But why are they white? Aren't they supposed to be orange?

Oh yeah, and why do you have to "filter" the shrimp out? Why can't you just squirt them into the tank? I tried to use a cloth to "filter" them, but it put just as much salt in the water.

Thanks. :good:
 
They should be orange, this is the reason for a constant temperature, light, the whole process. If you are doing daily large water changes the bit of salt solution won't bother the fry. If you aren't, you need to drain the bbs, this removes the salt water, the rinsing removes the remainder. This is where the paper coffee filter rubber banded to a cup excells.

Some info on unhatched bbs and shells;
http://www.angelsplus.com/ArticleDecomp.htm
http://www.angelsplus.com/ArticleArtemiaShells.htm
 

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