How To Decide Appropriate Tank Size For Any Fish !

Maybe we can make a tank size rule for individual species or just by activity, if it groups, how big it gets etc to determin the size of the tank so for example a low active fish that is 2 inches can be kept in a minimum of a 10 to 16 inch long tank
 
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Maybe we can make a tank size rule for individual species or just by activity, if it groups, how big it gets etc to determin the size of the tank so for example a low active fish that is 2 inches can be kept in a minimum of a 10 to 16 inch long tank
The fish species index of our forum gives all the details you asked wrt all types of fish. The sole purpose of this post was to correctly identify the general grounds on the basis of which tank size requirements are calculated. I will be updating the post with everyones points and also mentioning them. This way the post will be more useful and acceptable too.
 
There are no true formulas to how much or how big of a fish you can keep in a tank. What should be done instead of taking a lucky guess based on some magical universal formulas that allow you to fit whatever you want in your tank, is researching the particular species of fish online before you buy it because your tank can hold x inches of fish or your tank can hold x big of fish cause it's big in comparison to them.

For example, we have convict and firemouth cichlids, and larger gourami species, they grow to be pretty big fish, about 6 inches, not counting for their bulk (let's remember this, 1 of these fish is bigger than 6 1 inch guppies. The inch rule of thumb is pretty bogus.) but are fairly inactive. I read around, and for the most part, people keep these fish in 30 inch long tanks with no issue. Not together, of course, but alone or with with that won't bother or that won't be bothered by them.

A rule of thumb I followed for a short period of time was dividing the length of the tank by 4, width of the tank by 1.5, and height of the tank by 1.5. the smallest number in that formula is the biggest fish you can hold. Following this formula, I could theoretically keep a 7.5 inch long fish in my 37, an 8 inch long fish in my 55, and as for my 20, it's a hexagon, I don't wanna figure that one out.

That didn't make much sense to me, the 55g tank is about a foot and a half longer, and I can only keep half an inch more of fish in it, according to this key. But that's because its width doesn't allow much wiggle room for bigger fish.

Keep in mind, this is theoretical, and I do still use those measurements as a small key of sorts. If a fish gets bigger than 7.5 or 8, I don't bother looking into them all too much, at least not to buy. If they don't get larger, I take a further step into researching, going online, asking questions, reading profiles, and digging out what sounds best for the fish. If they fit, great, if they don't, well, that sucks. better luck next time.

I also use the gallon=1 inch of full grown fish as a general guideline too, to make sure I'm not slamming my tank full of fish. As tempting as it is to have a tank full of little fish from the store, it's good to keep in mind that they don't stay little forever.

It's bad advice, but it's general newbie advise that keeps you from buying like 40 1 inch fish that will grow to be 3-6 inches for your 20 gallon tank cause they're really small and you don't think they'll grow too much. It sets a general limit on your item that you can surpass in some cases, and will have to undershoot in others.

Research is not that hard to do, it's somewhat enjoyable (for me, anyway) and it keeps us from making big mistakes and risking the happy life of a pet. It tells you how big it'll get, how much space it'll need, what kind of water it likes, and what tank mates it can stay with. All that information can be obtained just by typing in their name on your favorable search engine, and if you're too lazy to do that, you shouldn't be keeping fish.
 
There is alot more to take into consideration than just size and gallons. For instance, I have a 55g mbuna setup. I can't stock it as if it were 55g because they are rock dwelling fish, so I have to take into account the 20g replaced by rock. You also can't go off lenght alone. I have a 75g with 2 Severums and a Jewel. It's a 4ft tank just like the 55g. But I cannot keep the Sevs in the 55g as these fish will get to be 12 inches long. It would be depressing to watch though fish try to turn around in a tank that is as deep as they are long, even though the 55g meets the length requirement for those fish. Also territory issue. While my 75g is a huge tank, the stocking is minimal as my jewel will kill almost anything (she like the severums) and needs her space.

I have a 40g hex as well. While it has the gallons to accomadate a lot, I have to watch the stocking as it is tall, not wide. So I stock it with fish that prefer all areas of the tank (platys/swords) and they seems happy.

There are way more than 3-4 parameters to look at when stocking a tank.
 
If the original post was designed to help beginners I have to say, as a beginner, I'm confused.com

It all may aswell be written in chinese as it made no sense what-so-ever to me ... and I read it three times before posting this response.

Ah well, I'll carry on taking care of my little, easy going, hardy fish then
 
See thats the point, of course there have to be more than 4 parameters

onidrase has shed some light on how he deals with tank size issue quite intriguing indeed .

On the other side dieses made her point about the tank aquascaping and importance of netting the space taken by rocks and plants to calculate the net area available for the fish to move.

See thats the objective of a forum, here its not about me or you, its about formation of a cosensous and how we develop our knowledge and understanding of fish by sharing experiences.

Tell you what I feel that fish turning issue is very significant to ascertain the required width of the tank. I feel once more veterans share their experiences we will be able to reach to a practical conclusion and a benchmark understanding to ensure correct tank size.

All the information gathered will be properly compiled into the main post. That way it will serve its purpose more effictively.
 
It is not so much about reaching a concensus as it is utilizing what is already proving to work, which is common sense. You aren't going to live in a walk in closet, so why would you put your 12 inch fish in a 2ft tank? Just like I wouldn't lock my cat in a 2x2 room. Most hobbyist do well just accepting the fact that these are living creatures and you want to mimic their natural environment. And even though you cannot have a lake in your living room, you should research to find out more about the personality of the fish you want, and try to create an environment based on that personality, that way you can see your fish at its best.
 
It is not so much about reaching a concensus as it is utilizing what is already proving to work, which is common sense. You aren't going to live in a walk in closet, so why would you put your 12 inch fish in a 2ft tank? Just like I wouldn't lock my cat in a 2x2 room. Most hobbyist do well just accepting the fact that these are living creatures and you want to mimic their natural environment. And even though you cannot have a lake in your living room, you should research to find out more about the personality of the fish you want, and try to create an environment based on that personality, that way you can see your fish at its best.
That line of yours " what is already proving to work" this thread had aimed to elaborate that stuff only, thanks a lot for your understanding and easy manners :huh: :grr:
 
I haven't kept one, I saw it at an aquarium 20g at an enthusiasts place, I met that guy through a business associate, his jewel is really a jewel, he feels completely at peace with the demasonis yes I m not joking 2 demasonis and 7 green tiger barbs . He says that the jewel needs densely planted tanks to be at ease. He has been keeping it for past 6 months. Its 3 inches now and blood red with those really vibrant blue specs. No death reported.
 
I haven't kept one, I saw it at an aquarium 20g at an enthusiasts place, I met that guy through a business associate, his jewel is really a jewel, he feels completely at peace with the demasonis yes I m not joking 2 demasonis and 7 green tiger barbs . He says that the jewel needs densely planted tanks to be at ease. He has been keeping it for past 6 months. Its 3 inches now and blood red with those really vibrant blue specs. No death reported.
Demasonis are highly aggressive as well and have probably beat the dickens out of the jewel a time or two. And the fact that he is keeping malawis with tiger barbs shows me that he also has no knowledge on keeping fish as tiger barbs need completely different water parameters than malawis.

Demosanis in a 20g....I am not going there on that one. Jewels may need dense plants, but demosanis need rocks and caves. Jewels also prefer rock as they will dig up and destroy plants. I would be very leary in trusting your friends fish keeping as I am already seeing his entire setup is breaking a lot of common knowledge fish keeping. I suggest you take him some reading, or show him google search.
 
Well I had not received timely info about them through the post, so I indulged in doing some research myself, got some good info from our own fish species index. Guess u never knew something like that existed right. And a simple search on google gave more than a million results, reading about a fish is not a rocket science you know, but yes you do need to know how to read which in your case is an issue.

And you may call anybody anything, nobody has to prove anything to the likes of you, as for now thats a real live example and its going good.

My intentions, loool you lost your mind or something? Now whats wrong with that.
Just because it is working does not make it right. I could possibly house a cat with a 12ft Boa constrictor. It may work, but is it right?
 
I haven't kept one, I saw it at an aquarium 20g at an enthusiasts place, I met that guy through a business associate, his jewel is really a jewel, he feels completely at peace with the demasonis yes I m not joking 2 demasonis and 7 green tiger barbs . He says that the jewel needs densely planted tanks to be at ease. He has been keeping it for past 6 months. Its 3 inches now and blood red with those really vibrant blue specs. No death reported.
Demasonis are highly aggressive as well and have probably beat the dickens out of the jewel a time or two. And the fact that he is keeping malawis with tiger barbs shows me that he also has no knowledge on keeping fish as tiger barbs need completely different water parameters than malawis.

Demosanis in a 20g....I am not going there on that one. Jewels may need dense plants, but demosanis need rocks and caves. Jewels also prefer rock as they will dig up and destroy plants. I would be very leary in trusting your friends fish keeping as I am already seeing his entire setup is breaking a lot of common knowledge fish keeping. I suggest you take him some reading, or show him google search.

No friend dieses its just a business associate,he was keen to show me his tank because I told him stiff I learnt on tff and he was impressed. I dont want to be telling him whats right and wrong ato this early stage, I will surely tell him to read stuff but I m no mr.77. I dont want to ruin it with an associate, who knows if he cant take good advice. It all depends from person to person dieses not everyone is that caring u know
 
People need to be. A fish is a pet just the same as dogs, cats, hamsters, gerbils etc. In the US you will go to jail for abusing a dog or cat, but people neglect and abuse fish by keeping them in tanks to small with other fish that want to eat them and blah blah blah and apparently it is okay. So forgive me if I am a little peeved that keeping 2 demasonis in a 20g tank with tiger barbs and a jewel is thrown at me as a good example of a jewel being peaceful. That poor fish has probably been through hell and back with the demosonis and I am amazed the tigers havent become food.
 

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