How Much More?

[TekFish]

If you cant see my sig I have a 200L tank, 100 x 50 x 40
 
I have:
8 Neon Tetras
9 Rummynose Tetras
4 Diamond tetras
2 Agassizi's Dwarfs
7 Panda Cories
 
How much more do you think I will be able to get?
 
Tek oot.

 

[Paradise3]

You missed one out
1 x A.Cirrhosus
 
Maybe you could up the number of M.Pittieri?

 

[Brahmza]

Well, 200l is close to 55USG, and following the '1 inch of fish per 1 gallon of water' rule, you have quite a bit of room for expansion. Just add up the max size of each of your fish and see what you're left with. Usually does really well, and you will never be overstocked.

 

[Paradise3]

Well, 200l is close to 55USG, and following the '1 inch of fish per 1 gallon of water' rule, you have quite a bit of room for expansion. Just add up the max size of each of your fish and see what you're left with. Usually does really well, and you will never be overstocked.

 
That rule is flawed. By that rule I can keep a 10 inch Oscar in a 10 Gallon tank which is just wrong.

 

[Paradise3]

How about...
 
2 x Ancistrus Cirrhosus
10 x Paracheirodon Inessi
10 x Hemigrammus Bleheri
8 x Moenkhausia Pittieri
9 x Corydoras Panda
2 x Apistogramma Agassizi 
 
Sounds good?

 

[Essjay]

Well, 200l is close to 55USG, and following the '1 inch of fish per 1 gallon of water' rule, you have quite a bit of room for expansion. Just add up the max size of each of your fish and see what you're left with. Usually does really well, and you will never be overstocked.

 
That rule is flawed. By that rule I can keep a 10 inch Oscar in a 10 Gallon tank which is just wrong.

 
 
The 'rule' is usually quoted with part missing. It should be "one inch of fish that grow to a maximum of 3 inches per gallon". That eliminates fish like oscars from the rule.
 
But it is still flawed even so.

 

[Paradise3]

 

Well, 200l is close to 55USG, and following the '1 inch of fish per 1 gallon of water' rule, you have quite a bit of room for expansion. Just add up the max size of each of your fish and see what you're left with. Usually does really well, and you will never be overstocked.

 
That rule is flawed. By that rule I can keep a 10 inch Oscar in a 10 Gallon tank which is just wrong.

 
 
The 'rule' is usually quoted with part missing. It should be "one inch of fish that grow to a maximum of 3 inches per gallon". That eliminates fish like oscars from the rule.
 
But it is still flawed even so.

 
I didn't know that because it get's missed out so much :O So many people get mis-informed because the little bit get's missed out... Though as you say, it's still flawed even with that.

 

[Essjay]

I have come across a comment that the 1 inch per gall was wrongly set. It said that 1 inch was for cold fish and it was really 2 inches for tropical, but that the rule got misquoted years ago, so long ago that no-one now realises 1" per gall only applies to cold water fish not tropical.
 
 
 
 
**sits back and waits for all the arguement to start**

 

[Paradise3]

I have come across a comment that the 1 inch per gall was wrongly set. It said that 1 inch was for cold fish and it was really 2 inches for tropical, but that the rule got misquoted years ago, so long ago that no-one now realises 1" per gall only applies to cold water fish not tropical.
 
 
 
 
**sits back and waits for all the arguement to start**

 
I'm not going to argue. I learnt something new today

 

[TekFish]

Well guess what, I went and bought more fishies and only saw your answers after I got back so now:
 
15 x Neon Tetra
9 x Firehead sorry not Rummynose
4 x Diamond Tetra
7 x Panda Cories
1 x And BN catfish 

 
Anyways I was planning on this:
 
15 x Neon tetra
12 x Rummynose/Firehead tetra
7 x Diamond Tetra
9 x Panda cories
2 x Agassizi's Dwarf
1 x BN Catfish, purely because I want to be able to tell which one is which. Cuz I called it Nom 

 
Tek oot.

 

[Paradise3]

Sounds good You'd be able to tell which was which is you got an Albino or male and female

 

[TekFish]

I don't like the looks of albino or the Super reds, and I sure as hell don't want these things breeding, they already took over my friends tank with about 50 or so mini babies....I think I'll stick with one, she seems fine anyways.
 
Tek oot.

 

[eaglesaquarium]

The "rule" is a rough way to get a sense for stocking limitations.   And the "rule" refers to small, slim bodied fish.  Even fish like dwarf gouramis don't fit the rule.
 
 
The bigger issue is in regards to the fish keeper and their tank.  A tank with lots of plants can handle more fish, and if the fishkeeper keeps a solid water change schedule, LOTS OF FRESH WATER, and is OVER filtered, then it is not nearly a hard and fast rule.  It is, however, a pretty good starting point.  The more important question is how much nitrate builds up, and how much oxygen is available.

 

[Brahmza]

The "rule" is a rough way to get a sense for stocking limitations.   And the "rule" refers to small, slim bodied fish.  Even fish like dwarf gouramis don't fit the rule.
 
 
The bigger issue is in regards to the fish keeper and their tank.  A tank with lots of plants can handle more fish, and if the fishkeeper keeps a solid water change schedule, LOTS OF FRESH WATER, and is OVER filtered, then it is not nearly a hard and fast rule.  It is, however, a pretty good starting point.  The more important question is how much nitrate builds up, and how much oxygen is available.

Exactly. With enough plants, filtration and oxygenation, you could go beyond the 1 inch of fish per gallon rule. Using common sense and basic knowledge of fish housing needs, it's a great rule to follow. Someone who reads the rule and decides a 10 inch Oscar could work in a 10 gallon tank doesn't deserve to own a fish tank in the first place.

 

[Paradise3]

The "rule" is a rough way to get a sense for stocking limitations.   And the "rule" refers to small, slim bodied fish.  Even fish like dwarf gouramis don't fit the rule.
 
 
The bigger issue is in regards to the fish keeper and their tank.  A tank with lots of plants can handle more fish, and if the fishkeeper keeps a solid water change schedule, LOTS OF FRESH WATER, and is OVER filtered, then it is not nearly a hard and fast rule.  It is, however, a pretty good starting point.  The more important question is how much nitrate builds up, and how much oxygen is available.

Exactly. With enough plants, filtration and oxygenation, you could go beyond the 1 inch of fish per gallon rule. Using common sense and basic knowledge of fish housing needs, it's a great rule to follow. Someone who reads the rule and decides a 10 inch Oscar could work in a 10 gallon tank doesn't deserve to own a fish tank in the first place.

 
Yeah I get all this but what I don't get is when people tell someone who's new to the hobby the whole "1 inch of fish per gallon" without explaining it properly lol. I'm not saying Tek is a newbie to the hobby but I've seen people say "I've just got a fish tank and I want to know what I can put in it?" And then say it's something like 10 gallons and people just go "The rule is 1 inch of fish per gallon of water" which isn't right because that leads them to think they can fit big fish in a small tank I do get that the rule is a good general rule but I would say that when people just tell people that's the "rule" it get's to me. Like I say, I know Tek isn't a newbie but I would say if you're going to use that rule for someone who IS new then explain it. 
My point has been put across I'm not arguing with anyone but there's my view on it.