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Casey55

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Quick question.

I have 180l tank. 40g I think.

Could I have
6 green barbs. ( already in tank)
6 tiger barbs (normal ones)
Maybe 3/4 Cory catfish.

Or any other suggestions with numbers and fish to go with my green barbs.

Thanks.
 
Could you post the dimensions of your tank, and the pH and hardness of your water, please?
 
Length is 100cm/ 39"
Depth is 40cm/ 16" 3/4
Hight is 40cm /'16" 3/4
pH is siting around 7.8 and 8.
Water hardness?

I have given measurements in cm and inch if this helps as I'm unsure what people go by. (I only use mm normally just trying to keep it simple).

As for water hardness I'm not to sure to be honest I need to find a test kit for this as I only have the fresh water API at the moment sorry. I will pick one up this week.

Thanks.
 
No need to buy a test kit for GH and KH (unless one is adjusting water, another story). Check with your water supplier, they likely have a website and this data may be posted, or they can tell you. GH is general hardness and KH is carbonate hardness or Alkalinity. The latter is important as a "buffer" for pH, while the GH has the most direct impact on fish.

To answer your first question, subject to things possibly changing with the GH/KH numbers, yes you can have 12 Tiger Barbs (the regular, albino and green forms are all the same species, and correct my assumption if wrong but I am taking "green barb" to be the green tiger barb) or a few more.

Now, if you want another species (not one of the Tiger Barb varieties), this has to be carefully thought out, as the tank will nicely suite a decent-sized group of Tigers as it is. These fish are a bit feisty, and can fin nip, but in larger groups this is less likely to be a real problem. We can probably find something else, though I would recommend you stay with the Tiger Barbs, adding perhaps a few more if you like.

The corys will be fine, but a few more of them. Five is absolute minimum, but as you have space I would increase this to say 8-10. The same species, or you can mix them. There are some exceptions, and some special needs, but I won't get into that until I know more of the plan and the water parameters.

Byron.
 
Thanks for the information. I will look in to the water hardness tomorrow and get back to you with that one.

As I have 6 green tiger barbs ( sorry missed out tiger before) I was looking at 6 more but the normal tiger barbs, gold and black. Basically for some colour in the tank as I have reed they will shoal together and more is better for these fish only difference being there colours.

The reason I was thinking about adding Cory catfish is they stay along the bottom from what I have been reading and help keep the sand clean.

Unless there is anything else I could put with the barbs that will take up the bottom part of the tank and won't be to big for my tank?

Thanks for the help. I would rather try and get this right first time round instead of the Tiger barbs killing off other fish and being a pain.
 
Thanks for the information. I will look in to the water hardness tomorrow and get back to you with that one.

As I have 6 green tiger barbs ( sorry missed out tiger before) I was looking at 6 more but the normal tiger barbs, gold and black. Basically for some colour in the tank as I have reed they will shoal together and more is better for these fish only difference being there colours.

The reason I was thinking about adding Cory catfish is they stay along the bottom from what I have been reading and help keep the sand clean.

Unless there is anything else I could put with the barbs that will take up the bottom part of the tank and won't be to big for my tank?

Thanks for the help. I would rather try and get this right first time round instead of the Tiger barbs killing off other fish and being a pain.

On the last point, that is something some refuse to accept, usually with serious consequences down the road. Minimum tank for a group of this species (Puntigrus tetrazona, though there is some confusion here, more detailed at: http://www.seriouslyfish.com/its-of...er-loses-its-stripes-but-what-about-its-name/ ) is a 30 gallon/113 liters with a group of at least 10, preferably 12-15. The group size should never be less than this, so in more spacious tanks it is possible to add other upper fish provided they are not likely to be targets (sedate fish for example, or those with long fins). Substrate fish are easier to find. Which brings me to your question about substrate fish other than corys.

You have the space to consider some of the smaller loach species if you want to be more geographical. The Tiger Barb species are native to Borneo/Sumatra. Loaches are Indian (Asian subcontinent) and share many of the same requirements when it comes to habitat. Some do get too large, but there are several that are lovely and interesting fish and suited to a 3+ foot tank as here. Botia kubotai, B. striata, Ambastaia sidthimunki and Micronemacheilus cruciatus are some I have or have had, and all are interesting fish. A group of minimum five or six, maybe seven to eight if either of the latter two species, would be nice with the barbs. Data here:
http://www.seriouslyfish.com/species/botia-kubotai/
http://www.seriouslyfish.com/species/botia-striata/
http://www.seriouslyfish.com/species/ambastaia-sidthimunki/
http://www.seriouslyfish.com/species/micronemacheilus-cruciatus/

Loaches do not suit every community tank, as they need a group, some species can get very large (the popular Clown Loach reaches over a foot) and some do have rather nasty temperaments. Which is a real shame becaused they are highly social fish with some quite interesting behaviours, and when one has the opposturnity to design a tank with their needs in mind it would be a shame to miss out on these fishes. The above-mentioned species have never given me problems. Being active fish, upper fish need to be similar, which is where barbs and danios fit the bill nicely.

"Keeping the sand clean" can mean different things. Corydoras in my experience do not eat food that happens to fall to the bottom unless it is to their liking, such as one of the sinking foods intended for catfish. I have seen corys ignore flake foods they stir up but really chow down on tablets or similar. Same applies to similar substrate fish.
 
fluttermoth the information Byron. I will sit down tomorrow and have a proper read through the links you have put up about each of them fish including the Tiger barbs.

I will also find out the water hardness as fluttermoth requested and get back to you both to find out if any of you think there's a problem or anything.

Thanks for all help appreciate it.
 
fluttermoth the information Byron. I will sit down tomorrow and have a proper read through the links you have put up about each of them fish including the Tiger barbs.

I will also find out the water hardness as fluttermoth requested and get back to you both to find out if any of you think there's a problem or anything.

Thanks for all help appreciate it.


Sorry that last message has gone abit wrong at the beginning for some reason.
 

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