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[uchihahovis]

hi guys, my names owais, i currently own 2 musks turtles, one albino segnal bichir one normal segnal bichir , 5 bristle nose pleco, 2 feeder mollies , a laced gourami and a pangasuise shark

 

[Ninjouzata]

to TFF! Hope you enjoy it here~
 
I hope those aren't all in the same tank and that you have a very huge tank for the pangasius..

 

[vrob]

Hi Owais, welcome to the TFF!

 

[uchihahovis]

to TFF! Hope you enjoy it here~
 
I hope those aren't all in the same tank and that you have a very huge tank for the pangasius..

pangasuise is only 4 inches and grew 2 in six months, upgrading to a 6 ft for him and the bichirs onces their all big enough , bichir dont bother my bns, gourami, pan  or the  mollies and my turtles have been with fish since they hatches and never attecked anything theyre about 3yrs old now and had them with large plecos so theve never wanted to attack any fish so its all good my tank has enought hiding spaces for all the fish to feel safe, loads of small nooks and crannys

 

[Ninjouzata]

That's fine and dandy but you do realize the pangasius will need a minimum of a 15ftx6ftx6ft?
They really should not even be in this hobby. If you can provide what they need though then by all means have at it!
 
Your mollies will likely be eaten by the bichirs eventually but you said they're feeders so I suppose you wont mind. The gourami may get eaten some day as well. Generally if it fits..it's nom noms.
 
Will you be getting more bichirs when you upgrade? I'm sure they'll love the 6ft and most of the upperjaws would be fine in that size tank (except for ornate, teugelsi, and maybe weeksi).
 
Do you have any pictures of the senegals?

 

[uchihahovis]

That's fine and dandy but you do realize the pangasius will need a minimum of a 15ftx6ftx6ft?
They really should not even be in this hobby. If you can provide what they need though then by all means have at it!

 
Your mollies will likely be eaten by the bichirs eventually but you said they're feeders so I suppose you wont mind. The gourami may get eaten some day as well. Generally if it fits..it's nom noms.
 
Will you be getting more bichirs when you upgrade? I'm sure they'll love the 6ft and most of the upperjaws would be fine in that size tank (except for ornate, teugelsi, and maybe weeksi).
 
Do you have any pictures of the senegals?

my albino likes coming to the glass when i feed him bonleess chicken or lamb but my grey one (the older one) darts behind rocks so i can never snap shots of him
i do have a video on my mobile of my albino and one of my musks eating together 
with the upgrade i intend to try get some dehlzi, my gf is already getting me two ropefish just a little bigger than my bichirs and i may get a few other upper jaw bichir, what would you recommend, they'll still live with my musks so plants will need to be anchored by large rocks and such but i have an aquascape in my head for a nice bichir aquarium with a few l number plecs and loads of hiding spots for my bichirs to claim as their own, it'll be like my current tank but 4x bigger and more planted

 

[uchihahovis]

also heres the few pics i have of my little predators 

 

[Ninjouzata]

Funny how different they can be! And they are so cute
 
I think the two sens, del, and two ropes will be enough on the bottom but if I had to add anything it'd be a palmas buettikoferi.
 
Is the new tank going to have sand? I'm just worried 'cause they can swallow gravel.

 

[uchihahovis]

Funny how different they can be! And they are so cute

 
I think the two sens, del, and two ropes will be enough on the bottom but if I had to add anything it'd be a palmas buettikoferi.
 
Is the new tank going to have sand? I'm just worried 'cause they can swallow gravel.

honestly i was gonna have it as a planted tank so i was gonna use florite* (not sure the spelling) then a thick layer of sand , loads of ocean rock in the background so they can go behind them if they dont wanna be seen  and a few diffrent hiding holes along the edges of the tank, what other fish would work we in the mid and top areas of the tank, i was thinking a giant gourami but i want a few other ish that will go well, no chiclids or oscars though

 

[sawickib]

Looks like i found you
 
I love bichirs, along with ninj haha 
 
Do you know how many gallons your tank will be? My favorite out of all the bichirs is p. palmas palmas and polyperus mokelembembe. Id recommend buying bichirs from these people (if you choose to buy online). >Jurassic Aquatics< >Aquatic Daycare< >Fishonlinerus< Ive ordered from all of them and they all did me right
 
Depending on your other stock you can have quite a few upper jaw bichirs, weeksii is out of the question, they are monster upper jaws lol along with the others ninj has already mentioned, teugelsi and ornate. Teugelsi bichirs get very long and ornates get long and fat. Weeksii get long, fat, and have huge jaws.
 
Nice looking bichirs btw, idk if im ever going to get another albino senegalus again. I lost the last one because it wouldnt eat. My dream bichir is a platinum senegalus 

 
Sharp rocks and bichirs dont mix well, if they get spooked they will dart around the tank and hit the glass and decorations, id hate to lose a bichir to decoration. The best decorations are sand, driftwood, smooth rocks and plants (artificial or real) also pvc pipes work. You need a tight fitting lids and make sure all the big holes are sealed up so they dont jump out. You also need a gap of air for them breath atmospheric air, if they cant do this they can actually drown.
 
Bichirs can have a wide variety of tank mates, as long as they dont fit and their mouth and dont steal the bichirs food then they are all good! 

 Also since bichirs are so hardy they can live in any pH and hardness avoiding the extremes of course. I have mine with geophagus, angelfish, nandus nandus, pearl gouramis, a severum, and a elephant nose fish.
 
If i were you id start getting the 6ft tank now, bichirs are fast growers and will out grow your 20 gallon in no time. Its always usually better to have the tank you need before its to late, and the fish becomes stunted, which really only happens from deteriorating water parameters but a small tank can still stress fish out.
If you knew any of this information than thats good but i just wanna help as much as possible. O and 

 to TFF!!!

 

[sawickib]

O also, do you only feed chicken and lamb? Thats not exactly the best diet for them. Id recommend cut prawns/shrimp, fresh caught fish or frozen fish doesnt really matter, earthworms, mealworms (not to babies, and only as a snack, babies can choke and die on these), bloodworms, brine shrimp, tubifex worms, wax worms, and most likely as a staple a high quality sinking pellet food from, new life spectrum or hikari. Doesnt need to be brand name, just high quaility and packed with proper nutrients for them to thrive.

 

[Tongue_Flicker]

Welcome aboard!

 

[uchihahovis]

O also, do you only feed chicken and lamb? Thats not exactly the best diet for them. Id recommend cut prawns/shrimp, fresh caught fish or frozen fish doesnt really matter, earthworms, mealworms (not to babies, and only as a snack, babies can choke and die on these), bloodworms, brine shrimp, tubifex worms, wax worms, and most likely as a staple a high quality sinking pellet food from, new life spectrum or hikari. Doesnt need to be brand name, just high quaility and packed with proper nutrients for them to thrive.

i mix it up, i added river shrimp, tubifex, beef hear, , seabass, algae wafers, freeze dried shrimp, shrimp pellets, maggots , boneless chicken, lamb