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Hi all im new to this so looking for adivce really. I have a 4-5foot fish tank set up for tropical fish but im not sure what fish can go togther and what cant so could do with some help my other half would really like a oscar but still not sure what can go with them i know the sucker fish (catfish) can but thats about all i know to be honest :unsure:. I own two male siamese fighting fish both in tanks of there own but i dont know how many females to put in with each of them or even if one of them could go in the big tank with other fish. x
 
Hi all im new to this so looking for adivce really. I have a 4-5foot fish tank set up for tropical fish but im not sure what fish can go togther and what cant so could do with some help my other half would really like a oscar but still not sure what can go with them i know the sucker fish (catfish) can but thats about all i know to be honest
Oscars should have at least 4-6*2*2 ft tank, if yours is big enough in the other dimensions, I'm sure someone here will be able to help with the stocking :) What do you have in the tank at the moment?

I own two male siamese fighting fish both in tanks of there own but i dont know how many females to put in with each of them or even if one of them could go in the big tank with other fish. x
If you put females with the males, they will fight. I suggest that you keep them on their own if the tanks are under 6.5 gallons / 25 litres, but if your tanks are bigger, there are a few other small fish such as ember tetras, espei rasboras and dwarf Corys who could fit in.
 
Hi and welcome to the forum!


First off a tank that size give you some serious scope to play with - lots of potential!

Right, straight away take the idea of a siamese fighter in a tank this size right out your head. Big no no. These are delicate fish which actually prefere smaller tanks with minimal water flow. In big tanks these fish actually can become very shy and timid and will suklk away at the back of the tank all day. They don't get on with bigger fish either, often falling victim to being fin-nipped or worse - eaten.

The idea of an Oscar is great. You have the tank for one, and possibly a couple of other largish fish that can handle themselves. Certainly a big ol' plec is very appealing, but there are smaller alternatives that can get to around 12" max that are far more beautifull, and appropriate in the long term. The problem with Oscars is they can be very bullish fish - mine certainly is! Mine doesnt accept ANY other fish other than a 4" L024 Plec currently. He's eaten or beaten any other tank mates he once had and he's not even 6" yet. So in a 4 foot tank i'd say an Oscar and a plec is probably about it. In a 5 foot you can have room to add some bigger dithers, or maybe even another cichlid or two perhaps.

Personally i'd go with something a little easier to care for. A larger community built up of slightly larger fish that mix well and are easy to care for. Oscars can get a little dull at times, certainly if he's the only fish in a tank like mine. The bigger community is a fascinating one. You could have a group of Pictus Catfish at the bottom, say 5 to get a good group activity going. You could get a nice plec that stays around 10" max like a Golden nugget, Magnum plec or Lemon plec - the list is endless! For a shoaling fish Rummy-nose Tetras are amazing, a nice group of 20+ of these would look brilliant, especially when they swim together which mine used to always do. Slightly larger tetras such as Beunos Aires Tetras and Congo Tetras can also look beautifull when in larger groups of say 13 or more in a big tank such as you have. As a main centre piece fish you could have a pair or small group of Firemouth Cichlids. These get to around 6" and look stunning when mature. They are also easy to breed and are fantastic parents to their fry.

There are millions of possibilites to try. Best thing you can do is browse the forum, the journals sections in the various sub-forums is a good start as you can see what we all keep. The fish index gives you a good indication of what there is out there to keep and what can mix with what. Failing that throw out questions and you'll get back answers :)


Hope this helps,
James
 
Right, straight away take the idea of a siamese fighter in a tank this size right out your head. Big no no. These are delicate fish which actually prefere smaller tanks with minimal water flow. In big tanks these fish actually can become very shy and timid and will suklk away at the back of the tank all day. They don't get on with bigger fish either, often falling victim to being fin-nipped or worse - eaten.

It sounds like the Bettas are on their own in two smaller tanks, no?
 
Hi James,

Thank you so much. I did say to my partner i did not think that the fighting fish could go in the big tank and was not happt to do it so you have put my mind at rest will show him the post lol.

My fighting fish are in tanks of there own which on is bigger than the other we a fair amount of room in do you think he would prefer to have a few females about and if so haw many?

Thats given me alot to think about where it comes to the size of the big tank thats for sure as a little girl my mum and dad had a pair of oscars they were stunning they had one of the catch fish things as well.

Im ment to be going out on thrusday to get the fish for the big tank as we have none in it at the moment because the water temp was really cold when we set it up yesterday when i came down this morning it was up to 26-27. Im not 100% whats the right temp we have friends who are have a big tank as well they came and set it up for us yesterday.

Hope to chatc again thank you so much.

Samantha ( sam for short) :)

No god no! they both have tanks of there own. :)

I have nothing in my big tank at the moment i only got it set up yesterday and the water temp was to cold so got nothing for it :no: . I going to go get the fish for it on thrusday i hope to any way. I got my siamese fighting fish yesterday. even named them lol .

No way not in the same tank! I have them in tanks of there own.

My two male fighter fish are in small tank on there own yes.
Not in the same tank, right? Or at least with a divider between them, if they are?
Nah in to diffrent tanks on there own.
 
My fighting fish are in tanks of there own which on is bigger than the other we a fair amount of room in do you think he would prefer to have a few females about and if so haw many?
Of course they would, and would then promptly kill the females. You should not mix the females with the males except for breeding. Dwarf Corys, ember tetras or espei rasboras would make much better tank mates.

Im ment to be going out on thrusday to get the fish for the big tank as we have none in it at the moment because the water temp was really cold when we set it up yesterday when i came down this morning it was up to 26-27. Im not 100% whats the right temp we have friends who are have a big tank as well they came and set it up for us yesterday.
22-25C is what I like to use for average tropical fish, but some may need more or less! Did you cycle the filter or was it cycled when you got it? If not, you're gonna have problems when you get your fish...

No god no! they both have tanks of there own. :)
Great!
 
its being filtted thats why we are not geting the fish till thursday maybe even the weekend depends on the other half lol. I was going to breed them. I thorught it was just the males that would fight to be honest and from what i had read up about them.
 
its being filtted thats why we are not geting the fish till thursday maybe even the weekend depends on the other half lol. I was going to breed them. I thorught it was just the males that would fight to be honest and from what i had read up about them.

It sounds like a brand new tank, so seriously, please read about fish-less cycling. There are articles in the beginner's resource centre on here.
 
its being filtted thats why we are not geting the fish till thursday maybe even the weekend depends on the other half lol. I was going to breed them. I thorught it was just the males that would fight to be honest and from what i had read up about them.

It sounds like a brand new tank, so seriously, please read about fish-less cycling. There are articles in the beginner's resource centre on here.
I will do thank you Kitty Kat. Glad theres people to help :good:
 
Hi James,

Thank you so much. I did say to my partner i did not think that the fighting fish could go in the big tank and was not happt to do it so you have put my mind at rest will show him the post lol.

Kitty Kat this is what i replied to about the Fighters, putting them in the bigger tank, not putting them together in a small tank. I knew they were in separate tanks currently.


Back to the OP. From what your saying it does sound like this is a newly set-up tank and the filter will not be mature enough to cope with new fish. So if you do introduce fish please follow the fishless cycle, which has already been mentioned and its highly advisable.
 
Hi James,

Thank you so much. I did say to my partner i did not think that the fighting fish could go in the big tank and was not happt to do it so you have put my mind at rest will show him the post lol.

Kitty Kat this is what i replied to about the Fighters, putting them in the bigger tank, not putting them together in a small tank. I knew they were in separate tanks currently.


Back to the OP. From what your saying it does sound like this is a newly set-up tank and the filter will not be mature enough to cope with new fish. So if you do introduce fish please follow the fishless cycle, which has already been mentioned and its highly advisable.
Hi again

It was our friends tank it had not been used for a few months and we set it all up yesterday it has water in it the pumps running really well the water is lovely and clear. will put some pics on here if that is ok.
 
If the tank has not been used for a couple of months then any beneficial bacteria in the filter have died. You are now starting a cycle from the start.

Dont panic, all is not lost & we will help any way we can.


Tom
 
If the tank has not been used for a couple of months then any beneficial bacteria in the filter have died. You are now starting a cycle from the start.

Dont panic, all is not lost & we will help any way we can.
Cool thank you Tom my friends who gave us it were the ones that set it up they put a solution into the water called aqua safe. is there anything else i need to put in? ment to be going to get fish for it on thursday evening. i cant get my phone to upload the pics of that tank and my other two.
 

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