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Elisabeth

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Ok, this post should probably be in the breeding section but I've never had fry before so its an emergency to me :) :)
My Kribensis :wub:, who I had no idea was expecting, about 10 minutes ago gave birth to loads and loads of fry. I'm so excited as I've never had babies before, but I'm also totally unprepared.
Help!!, So far i've scooped them up and put them in a breeding net, but they won't be able to stay there for long. I don't have a quarantine tank or anywhere to put them. I was wondering, should I rush out now and get a little tank to keep them in? But obviously it wouldn't be cycled, though I could use some of the old tank water...And what do they eat? Do they need special food or will finely ground flake be ok?
 
Elizabeth,

First congrats on your 'emergency' - my kribs are still at the nesting stage and haven't started laying yet.

Here is some info on krib breeding and care that I got from another site:

Once the pair have nested it will take somewhere between two to three weeks before the eggs are laid. (The female can get cranky and may give the male a poke or two). Kribs can lay between 10 and very rarely upto 250 eggs with a color ranging from yellow to dirty orange. It is not uncommon for the Kribs to lay the eggs on the roof of the nesting site, but this is not always the case. The eggs will hatch in 3-8 days; many fry will still have their shells stuck to them (used as part of the yolk sac), as they wiggle on the gravel. The female will come out for food once in a while, and the male will then take over until she gets back.

I have experienced cases where the male or female will keep one of the parents away from the nesting site. This seems to happen when there are very few or no other fish in the tank. Maybe Kribs instinctively feel the need to protect their fry, thus with no predators, they may divert their attention to each other? If this becomes a problem, try adding some dither/target fish; if the aquarium is under 20G it may be necessary to temporarily remove one of them.

The parents may move the fry (using their mouths) to another location or decide to raise the fry on the spot. When I first saw them do this, I cringed and thought they had decided to have a snack! A nesting site that has little or no gravel/inadequate cover can cause them to move the fry to a location that has gravel and offers some protection.

The fry will continue roaming around the gravel and occassionally make a leap or attempt a qucik swim. They usually follow the female or male like a magnet when out of the nest site. The parents may move the fry to a cave or better secluded location at night. They will become free-swimming in 5-10 days.

It is a good idea to keep the water clean (remember:Kribs are river fish), keep the other fish, as well as the parents, well fed (for obvious reasons), and even keep a small night-light on to help the parents protect the fry at night. Do not gravel vacuum near the nesting site, it will only stress the parents and fry, and eradicate an important food source of algae and infusoria. Gravel vacuums are usually attacked without hesitation.

Once they are free swimming they can be fed with any of the commercially available foods. Pulverized/finely broken flakes work well; the parents will also help in feeding by spitting out pieces of food. The fry grow fast and feed well off of baby shrimp nauplii after one week of free swimming. The fry can be fed many times daily in very small amounts. It will not be uncommon to see the parents herding and 'presenting' the fry around the tank while they look for food.

There are two basic options after this : remove the fry, or let them take their chances. After 2 to 4 weeks, once the fry are appr. 1/2 inches or more, it is a good idea to remove them or they will most likely get eaten or killed. At this point, the parents are beginning a new mating cycle, and will become aggressive even toward their own fry. It is very possible that some fry will survive - there are accounts of first generation fry even being allowed to help raise second generation! fry (this can be a common occurrence with Lamprologus Brichardi) But more often than not, they will attempt to eat the new fry. There is no real way to prevent spawning. If spawning becomes a tedious affair, take out the eggs! It's unfair, maybe cruel, but it's easy and it works. A ploy I often use is feeding the fry to other fish.


Hope this helps, and keep us informed of your progress.

Cheers, Eddie
 
Are you sure it is the Kribs, as they are egg layers, unless you meant the eggs have hatched?

Do you have any livebearers in your tank, eg, guppies, mollies, platys.
 
Hmmm, I thought they were Kribs but now I'm not too sure. I'm a bit confused!!

The female krib has been acting funny for the last few days and she is definately a lot thinner than she was this morning. Both her and the male crib were not letting any of the other fish near the fry. Could it be that they were just protecting their 'food'? Or that she has recently laid eggs nearby? Sorry, I must sound so ignorant but I really don't know much about kribs at all, I've only just discovered they're egg layers, not live bearers :wub:

I also have a pair of swordtails, 4 red platys, 5 emporer tetras and 4 golden barbs in the tank. Its definitely not the swordtail, she's new to the tank and when I had a look at her the other day she only has a very small gravid spot. I've not noticed any of the others being pregnant or acting strangely. Is there any way I can tell by looking at the fry? They look clear with brown speckles
 
It may be either the swordtails of the platys, livebearers can hold sperm inside their bodies for about 3 lots of fry. So if she was already fertilised before you got her, she may be the culprit.

For the kribs, have a look in the members pics section, I have some pics there but look at Eddies they are much clearer than mine.
 
OOOHHH, now the fry are getting trapped in the bottom of the breeding net, and all the fish are pecking at them. What should I do?? :eek: :eek:
 
Elisabeth said:
OOOHHH, now the fry are getting trapped in the bottom of the breeding net, and all the fish are pecking at them. What should I do?? :eek: :eek:
get them out of there and put them in a vase for a day or 2 until you can buy something to put the in the other fish will eat them I would say they have ate most of them already. trust me the will my molly ate hers right after she had the she had 28 babies and by the time I got to them I only could catch 24 the rest got ate. You will have pleny more in 28 more days give or take a few days I have so many now I dont know what I am going to do with all of them.
 
Ok I have now put the fry into another tank. But yesterday and today I have found new batches of fry in exactly the same place. They look the same as the others and the kribs are fighting off anyone who gets near. I think they may be kribs after all.
 

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