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sturmae

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Hi, I am new to fish keeping and I am having a few problems with my cycle and just wondered if anyone around the Norwich area would maybe have some filter media I could have to get my cycling process started?

Would really appreciate any help. :good:

My tank is a Juwel Rekord 800 with 7 live plants (If this helps)

Really looking forward to starting this new life long hobby :D

Many thanks. Ed
 
someone has just offered me the filter media from his juwel 180l tank, i am just a bit concerned as he says the temp of his water is 24c but he doesn't use a heater and has some cold and tropical fish together.

firstly can i take the media and use in my tank to help it cycle or not as there is no heater??

If so what filter should i take and how do i go about bringing it home and putting it in my tank??

The person lives about 3 mins drive away :)

Please get back to me tonight as i can get them tomo if everything is ok with doing that?

Many thanks as always.
 
Can't see any reason why you can't use it as long as it's not diseased as mentioned above. To transport it, make sure it's in some tank water, bucket should be ok if it's only a couple of minutes away, or container or bag of some sort. Then once home, put it in your filter asap.
 
Thanks for getting back so quick, which of the sponges do i want from his filter and how do i go about putting it in my filter??

Sorry if this sounds silly but i'm not sure as my bioflow super filter that came with my tank has a white filter to stops the big stuff, a carbon filter, a nitrogen filter and a large blue one at the bottom.

Thanks. Ed
 
Maybe others would disagree, but I would take the carbon out of your filter, and replace it some of the mature media you get.

I would keep the carbon for a later date, in case you have been using a course of meds for your fish, and have finished the treatment and need to remove it, use the carbon media then, as it is used for chemical filtration.
 
Hi sturmae :)

The bacteria is the same whether it is from a tank with cold water fish or tropicals. Just be sure to get fish in the tank as soon as possible so that they can produce ammonia to feed them and keep them alive.

Since the filter media is being given to you, you will want to remove something from your filter to fit it in. Carbon is not necessary in a filter unless you put it in for a particular reason such as removing medicine. Do not rinse the media; just use it the way it is given to you.

BTW, be sure to replace whatever the donor gives you with a fresh new one. Please let us know how everything turns out. :D
 
Thanks for getting back to me, which filter media should i take out of his tank please? Which one of his filters is likely to have the best bacteria on it.

I think he has similar filters to me as his tank is also a juwel. Should i take his carbon sponge or the bottom blue sponge or the nitrogen one?

Sorry for all the questions and yes i've offered to replace his sponge with a new one.

Thanks again
 
Hi sturmae :)

I'm not familiar with the particular filter you have, so let me explain it another way. Some of the filter media is more coarse or fine than others, but they all have surfaces. The bacteria clings to all these surfaces, so some media will have more bacteria on it than others because it has more surface area. There is no part that has better bacteria, just more or less of it.

Keeping this in mind, you won't want to take so much of it that he doesn't have enough left to support the fish in his tank. If he gives you 1/4 of all his bacteria, they will reproduce quickly and no harm will be done. If he were to give you half of his media, there would be a risk that his tank would go through a mini cycle, which is not a good thing to happen.

Bacteria laden media, even a little of it, is valuable stuff. If you are planning to do a fishless cycle, you will basically be feeding it artificially with ammonia and it will reproduce itself. Eventually you will have grown enough to stock your whole tank with fish all at once. Alternately, you could skip that step, since your tank would be immediately cycled when you put the bacteria into it, in proportion to the amount of bacteria you have added. It's actually the filter media that you cycle, not the tank itself.

Since I don't know if you already have fish, or what your plans are, or even how much bacteria you will be getting, let me explain this a little further, just in case you might need the information. As a rough guide, if his tank holds 20 guppies (for example) and he gives you 1/4 of all the bacteria from his filter, if you put it in yours and immediately added 5 guppies, they would be fine. If he gives you 1/5 of it, you could add 4 guppies to yours, etc. In a week or two you could then begin adding a few fish at a time and the bacteria would reproduce to keep up with the increased bioload. If his fish are bigger, it would still work more or less in proportion to body mass.

I hope this helps you.
 

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