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[wazza]

hello to everyone just after a bit of help. some off my fish have a white fungus on mouth and sides i have treated with protozin and still no change the water stats are all ok and i have finished the tretment and done a 30% water change today can anyone gve me a bit of help thanks wazza

 

[Colin_T]

any chance of a pic?

What is the actual water quality like, ammonia, nitrite, nitrate & PH?

is it fungus or just excess mucous. Fish have a mucous coating over their body and when they are stressed they produce more of it. This can make the fish look like it is covered in a white or cream film.

Normal fungus that affects fish looks like white fluffy stuff (a couple of mm long) coming out of the fish.

If it is mouth fungus then it will look like a white mouth that is inflamed. Mouth fungus (Columnaris) is a bacterial infection and can be hard to treat. It spreads very rapidly, (it can cover and kill a fish in a couple of days) and kills most infected fish.

Waterlife Protozin has a treatment period of about 9 days (from recollection) and if the fish has had the problem for that period of time, and it is still alive, then it is unlikely to be mouth fungus (Columnaris).

 

[wazza]

any chance of a pic?

What is the actual water quality like, ammonia, nitrite, nitrate & PH?

is it fungus or just excess mucous. Fish have a mucous coating over their body and when they are stressed they produce more of it. This can make the fish look like it is covered in a white or cream film.

Normal fungus that affects fish looks like white fluffy stuff (a couple of mm long) coming out of the fish.

If it is mouth fungus then it will look like a white mouth that is inflamed. Mouth fungus (Columnaris) is a bacterial infection and can be hard to treat. It spreads very rapidly, (it can cover and kill a fish in a couple of days) and kills most infected fish.

Waterlife Protozin has a treatment period of about 9 days (from recollection) and if the fish has had the problem for that period of time, and it is still alive, then it is unlikely to be mouth fungus (Columnaris).

thanks for your help colin i am not that good on the pc and havent got a clue how to put a photo on the white fungus has made one of my angles fish mouth rotten and has made my golden barbs side bleed and is on anothers mouth my water stats are ph is 7.0 ammonia nil ,nitrate 5mg nitrite 0.1 but the med would kill off the bacteria and would have to cycle again if i am right will i have to use the med again or is their any thing els like salt bath or am i wrong again thanks wazza

 

[Colin_T]

If the mouth is rotting away and the fish are bleeding on their sides then it is probably mouth fungus (Columnaris). Normal fungus is white and fluffy and should respond to most medications, (Protozin, Myxazin, etc). Columnaris will need something a bit stronger, (usually tetracycline based medications available from the vet) and this will wipe out the filter bacteria. Unfortunately if you don't use a strong anti-biotic then you won't get rid of the disease.

When treating the tank you should reduce the feeding to once every couple of days and do daily water changes and gravel cleans to dilute any ammonia and remove the gunk that is produced by the fish.

To work out the volume of water in the tank
measure Length x Width x Height in cm
divide by 1000
equals volume in litres

When measuring the height, measure from the top of the gravel to the top of the water level. If you have big rocks or driftwood in the tank, remove them before measuring the height.

Before you treat the tank do a 50% water change and complete gravel clean. This will reduce the gunk in the tank and allow the medication to work more effectively. It will also lower the pathogen count in the water and mean there are less nasties around to infect the fish.

Remove carbon from the filter before treating otherwise it will absorb the medication out of the water. Increase aeration/ surface turbulence to maximise the oxygen levels in the water.

 

[wazza]

If the mouth is rotting away and the fish are bleeding on their sides then it is probably mouth fungus (Columnaris). Normal fungus is white and fluffy and should respond to most medications, (Protozin, Myxazin, etc). Columnaris will need something a bit stronger, (usually tetracycline based medications available from the vet) and this will wipe out the filter bacteria. Unfortunately if you don't use a strong anti-biotic then you won't get rid of the disease.

When treating the tank you should reduce the feeding to once every couple of days and do daily water changes and gravel cleans to dilute any ammonia and remove the gunk that is produced by the fish.

To work out the volume of water in the tank
measure Length x Width x Height in cm
divide by 1000
equals volume in litres

When measuring the height, measure from the top of the gravel to the top of the water level. If you have big rocks or driftwood in the tank, remove them before measuring the height.

Before you treat the tank do a 50% water change and complete gravel clean. This will reduce the gunk in the tank and allow the medication to work more effectively. It will also lower the pathogen count in the water and mean there are less nasties around to infect the fish.

Remove carbon from the filter before treating otherwise it will absorb the medication out of the water. Increase aeration/ surface turbulence to maximise the oxygen levels in the water.

thank you for your help and experience i will give it a go and let you know thanks alot wazza