Help!

[titusmighty]

Okay --

I added some algae fix today, following the instructions thoroughly and I'm concerned it may not have been as fish safe as they said...

All the fish sort of freaked out when I added it but I'm concerned my angels are sick.

They've always been slightly orange on top, they were mutts that I got on sale, but the orange seems to be spreading. It could be my paranoid imagination but I do know they are being harassed in the tank, by my ameca splendens (that are not eating the hair algae like they are supposed to).

So... I'm thinking I should pull them out and put them into my guppy tank so they can relax for a while but if they are sick, I don't want to endanger the guppies.

What do I do??? Help please. Many thanks.

 

[*Fishkies*]

You have algae eaters in the tank? Basically by putting that algae destroyer in the tank you are sort of poisoning your algae eaters who are "supposed" to be eating the algea.

Does anything look fluffy on the angels?
How big is your tank? And how many fish are in it?

 

[titusmighty]

You have algae eaters in the tank? Basically by putting that algae destroyer in the tank you are sort of poisoning your algae eaters who are "supposed" to be eating the algea.

Does anything look fluffy on the angels?
How big is your tank? And how many fish are in it?

Nothing looks fluffy, just a copper tinge.

30g - two angels, three mollies, three juvenal clown loaches, two ameca spendens, six generic tetras i used to cycle the tank with originally, and a blue bushy nose

I realized the whole poisoning thing a little late - i've done a 20% water change and added activated charcoal to the filters

 

[Tolak]

Please fill this out so we can better help you;

Tank size:
pH:
ammonia:
nitrite:
nitrate:
kH:
gH:
tank temp:

Fish Symptoms (include full description including lesion, color, location, fish behavior):

Volume and Frequency of water changes:

Chemical Additives or Media in your tank:

Tank inhabitants:

Recent additions to your tank (living or decoration):

Exposure to chemicals:

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Angels will color up or fade at times according to their mood. Gold angels many times do get more orange to the crown as they mature. Many meds will decrease the O2 level in your tank, increasing aeration can't hurt, and giving the full name and manufacturor of the med you used will help.

 

[titusmighty]

Please fill this out so we can better help you;

Tank size: 30g
pH: 7.2
ammonia: 0
nitrite: less than .25 but not quite 0
nitrate: 10
kH: don't have the test
gH: don't have the test
tank temp: 80f

Fish Symptoms (include full description including lesion, color, location, fish behavior): behaving normally, increased copper color with dark copper spots on top

Volume and Frequency of water changes: 10-20% every 2-3 days, 60% once a week with fert.

Chemical Additives or Media in your tank: Ferro vit fertilizer, 10ml with 60% water change weekly; flora 24, 2 drops daily

Tank inhabitants: two angels, three mollies, three juvenal clown loaches, two ameca spendens, six generic tetras i used to cycle the tank with originally, and a blue bushy nose

Recent additions to your tank (living or decoration): i added a wisteria about a week ago

Exposure to chemicals: Tetra algae control

Digital photo (include if possible): http/farm2.static.flickr.com/1153/782994...cf494a9.jpg?v=0, http/farm2.static.flickr.com/1355/782994...0a5ef5e.jpg?v=0
not sure how to embed these... sorry

Angels will color up or fade at times according to their mood. Gold angels many times do get more orange to the crown as they mature. Many meds will decrease the O2 level in your tank, increasing aeration can't hurt, and giving the full name and manufacturor of the med you used will help.

 

[Tolak]

The main ingredient in that med is sodium carbonate peroxyhydrate, which is not related to copper in any way, so it shouldn't harm your algae eating fish. It is basically hydrogen peroxide, which will break down into oxygen & water in about 24 hours. Some breeders use hydrogen peroxide to combat bacteria & fungus when hatching out spawns they have pulled, a weak solution isn't going to harm your fish, but it will reduce algae.

Your best bet is to find the cause of the algae, by dealing with it chemically you are solving the symptoms, not the problem. Algae is often caused by too much light, as well as overfeeding.

Those pictures show normal coloration for silver angels. As silvers mature some will develop orange to the crown, as well as some speckles. This is something I like to see in silvers, along with the red eyes, and is something I shoot for when breeding silvers. They are coloring up nicely, strong colors are generally a sign of a healthy contented fish. Weak or washed out colors are a sign of a stressed fish.

I would bet by the healthy look of those angels, as well as a slight nitrite reading, that it's a bit of overfeeding. Try reducing the amount you feed, and fast for one day weekly.

 

[titusmighty]

The main ingredient in that med is sodium carbonate peroxyhydrate, which is not related to copper in any way, so it shouldn't harm your algae eating fish. It is basically hydrogen peroxide, which will break down into oxygen & water in about 24 hours. Some breeders use hydrogen peroxide to combat bacteria & fungus when hatching out spawns they have pulled, a weak solution isn't going to harm your fish, but it will reduce algae.

Your best bet is to find the cause of the algae, by dealing with it chemically you are solving the symptoms, not the problem. Algae is often caused by too much light, as well as overfeeding.

Those pictures show normal coloration for silver angels. As silvers mature some will develop orange to the crown, as well as some speckles. This is something I like to see in silvers, along with the red eyes, and is something I shoot for when breeding silvers. They are coloring up nicely, strong colors are generally a sign of a healthy contented fish. Weak or washed out colors are a sign of a stressed fish.

I would bet by the healthy look of those angels, as well as a slight nitrite reading, that it's a bit of overfeeding. Try reducing the amount you feed, and fast for one day weekly.

Thank you so much, Tolak. Had no idea those were good colors, just assumed they were a little funny since they were on sale. Teach me to do better research!