Help - Poorly Gourami

robah

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One of my Gourami's seems to be rotting. I have a picture (below) The fleshy bit has appeared by his head, it's also appeared where his feelers come out. Both feelers have fallen off

This is my first fishy illness, I don't what it is or how to look after a poorly fish, can hanyone help me please

Rob

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My god he's in a bad way can you isolate him, if the feelers have fallen off i don't think he will make it, as thats what they find food with, and he looks in a bad way, what size tank is it, how many fish and which type, plus water stats in ammonia,nitrite,nitrate,and ph.

That other fish in the pic looks unwell too, not the writer of this information below.
Ulcer Disease



Symptoms:

Fishes presenting with large red open lesions, ulcers or sores on the body have ulcer disease. Other symptoms may also include eroding flesh, reddening at the base of the fins and vent, and the fish may also experience a loss of appetite and darkening of color.



Cause:

Internal bacterial infection caused by Aeromonas and Pseudomonas. This disease is most often seen in fish that have been kept under poor conditions or recently imported.



Treatment:

Check your water conditions to ensure that they are within the optimal ranges for the type of fish you are keeping. If not, perform an immediate water change. Ulcer Disease is highly contagious, therefore the entire tank and all fish, even those not yet showing symptoms, should be treated. Treatment with Kanacyn, Furacyn, or Nitrofura-G are recommended.







Not the writer of this information below.
Epistylis (a.k.a. Red Sore Disease)



Symptoms:

Obvious symptoms include ulcers or cotton-like growths on the skin, scales and spine resulting in a red-colored lesion. Consequently, this disease is commonly known as "Red Sore Disease." In catfish the lesion will involve the spines and bones that underlie the skin of the head and pectoral girdle. This protozoan parasite has also been observed on eggs.



Cause:

The ciliated protozoan Heteropolaria. This disease is found primarily in wild populations of scaled fish. Heteropolaria is primarily a free-living protozoan that lives on aquatic plants and is believed to be an opportunist. Outbreaks are most common in catfish and salmon that have been kept for prolonged periods in water high in organic content.



Treatment:

These protozoans are osmotically sensitive and cannot withstand an increase in the salinity. You can treat your fish with a 30 minute bath of 22 g/L marine salt (non-iodized Sodium chloride) or a continuous bath of 6 g/L. Alternatively, you can treat with Quick Cure for 3 days.
 
Not the writer of this information.
Ulcers- Ulcers are open sores located on the fish's body. Ulcers are sores on the body caused by bacterial infection. You need to make very sure your water quality is immaculate. Check your pH and Ammonia as well as your Nitrite readings. Ulcers usually are caused by the Aeromonas bacteria or more rarely Pseudomonas bacteria. The ulceration may appear with red abscesses, or red edges around the ulcer. In some cases it can become rather large and expose muscles. Symptoms: The fish has one or more open sores on its body or at the base of its fins. The sore has a red abscess or red edges. The fish may also have red fin edges or fin rot. They may exhibit lack of appetite and sluggish behavior. Treatment: Usually antibiotics are needed and this is done by a series of injections. ( A vet would need to see the fish and give you the necessary prescription). However this is not always the best option for individuals and a product by Aquarium Pharmaceuticals has a great product called Mela Fix that has shown great results in the healing of ulcers. It is easy to use and does not create issues with the water quality. (back to top) Koivet.com has more info on MelaFix here.


What's your location, and can you post water stats please.

http://www.petsforum.com/cis-fishnet/afm/G29060.htm
 
Hi, I'm in the UK, bought the fish about 4 weeks ago from pets at home ....

Stats

Size: 75 UK Gallons
PH 7.5
Amonia 0
Nitrate 5
Nitrite 0
Nutrafin Test Kit

Poor little thing, he seems happy enough, not alot I can do. I don't have anywhere else I can put him
 
It looks like body fungus to me;

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Many formulations available for treating body fungus, including brand names: Jungle Fungus Guard, Mardel Maroxy, Aquarium Pharmaceuticals Fungus Cure and generic formulations usually containing methylene blue.

Fungal infections are relatively rare but do happen in already weakened fish. They will be very distinct in appearence, as opposed to Columnaris, which is probably far more commonly seen in the aquarium
Body fungus usually has the "fluffy" appearence of food molds, can be white or grey. True parasitic fungus prefers to grow on already dead tissue and will often coexist with bacterial infections.

What is the total fish stocking of your tank??
 
Hi robbie, I agree with Tokis-Phoenix. In addition to what Tokis-Phoenix treatment I would add 2 Tblsp of non-iodized salt / 10 gallons and use MelaFix ( helps treat secondary bacteria infections ) with the meds listed. Looks like an advanced stage so I would isolate the fish to treat it seperate from other fish.

Great for people to post pics so that memebers can see actual fish and it's ailment. Good luck with your gourami.
 
Thank you very much for everyone feedback, very useful.
Im not sure it is fungus, as that appears to grow on the fish.
My fish appears to have a hole.
Anyway I'll try some of the remedies although I don't think he'll make it :(
 
How long has the fish had the fungus?It does appear to be fungus im sure of that, although it looks bad, fish can be suprisingly tough somtimes, so don't give up hope yet. I would use an anti fungal med combined with somthing like melafix or pimafix(probably more effective as it is a stronger anti bacteria med than melafix), keep up on regular water once or twice weekly water changes with dechlorinator as well.
The fish most likely got the infection when it was beaten up/nipped by another fish and then a fungal infection(perhaps a bacterial one as well) set into the wound before the fish was able to reciver sufficiently, how long has the fish been sick?
 
Hi Tokis

He's only been ill for about a week, although he lives mainly in a log, i don't see much of him. But tonight for some reason he's out and about. I was shocked at how bad it was. I will try the meds tomorrow though. Fingers Crossed.
 
Good luck with treating him :) , and if he starts to show recovery, keep us updated with the new pics of his recovery :thumbs: ?
 
The other fish in the pic looks like an ulcer to me.
 
Sadly, he had passed away during the night. But thanks for everyones help and feedback.

Rob
 
Sorry he looked bad, R.I.P.
 

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