Help Needed: Fish Sick

[Heligrin]

Hey,

I just noticed that all of my Roselines have become extremely ill. Their scales are turning transparent and melting off and the eye lids seem to be turning transparent and look as though they are feeling off. The fish arent eating. WHAT DO I DO? I have been testing my CO2 levels and trying to push them up to the max, could this cause their scales to do this??? None of my other fish are experiencing this.

Water parameters are normal. Temp 78F

 

[NinjaSmurf]

Why are you trying to push CO2 levels and how are you going about this? Did you add anything to the tank or do anything else to it recently? I've heard of CO2 overdosing and killing fish but I don't know what the symptoms are for it...


Also, you may want to post this in the emergency section.

 

[hamfist]

Surely increasing CO2 a lot will lower ph. You may have overdone it. Fish do not like large changes in pH. What is your current (and normal) pH ?

If pH is low, then slowly reduce it. I hope it is not too late.

 

[Heligrin]

I was trying to get to my CO2 levels to the point where my fish are OK, but my levels are maxed. None of my other fish suffered any affects it was only the Rose Lines. It appeared to be sudden onset -- fine at 2pm then at 10pm i noticed they were in bad shape. However, i did add two more Roselines last Friday, but they were quarantined, so if an infection was going to break out i wouldn't expect it to be 3 days after introduction.

pH was about 6 with CO2. This is normal though, my CO2 would push the pH to about this everyday.

 

[WILDER]

Tank size in gallons or litres.
How many fish and which type.
Water stats in ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and ph.

Any bleaching beneath the skin, or fluffy cotton wool on the fish.
Any signs of excess mucas.
Any signs of darting, erratic swimming, flicking and rubbing, laboured breathing.

http/badmanstropicalfish.com/disease.html

Taken from the above link.


Carbon Dioxide Poisoning


Causes
Too much CO2 fertilization.
Symptoms
Apathy, restless swimming and panting.
Treatment
Strong aeration, water change and never fertilize with co2 at night.

 

[Heligrin]

Tank size in gallons or litres.
How many fish and which type.
Water stats in ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and ph.

Any bleaching beneath the skin, or fluffy cotton wool on the fish.
Any signs of excess mucas.
Any signs of darting, erratic swimming, flicking and rubbing, laboured breathing.

http/badmanstropicalfish.com/disease.html

Taken from the above link.


Carbon Dioxide Poisoning


Causes
Too much CO2 fertilization.
Symptoms
Apathy, restless swimming and panting.
Treatment
Strong aeration, water change and never fertilize with co2 at night.

There appears to be "fluffy cotton wool" on the 7 roselines i have. But it looks like dead scales or something of that sort.

 

[WILDER]

Sounds like columnaris to me.
http/www.flippersandfins.net/flexibacter.htm

Info taken from the link above.


The signs of Flexibacter infection run the gamut from fuzzy lesions of the mouth (“Mouth Fungus”) to septicemia (infection in the bloodstream) to white fuzzy patches scattered over the body, sometimes so severe as to cause the skin to look as if it is shedding or peeling, with the fins disintegrating. Due to the white fuzzy patches, Flexibacter also goes by the layterm, “Cotton Wool Disease” and this infection is so common in mollies that it carries the common names of “Black Molly Disease” and “Mad Molly Disease” with mollies often exhibiting “shimmying”. Often the fuzzy patch will be located on the fish’s back, surrounding the dorsal (top) fin, having the characteristic look to it of a saddle, giving rise to the term “saddle-back lesion”. These lesions may also be found on the fins (fin rot), especially on the caudal (tail) fin and on the gills. The natural course of “Mouth Fungus” is that the white fuzzies or patches are followed within a day or two by redness, ulceration and necrosis, which means that the mouth quickly turns into a gnarly mess!

 

[Heligrin]

Sounds like columnaris to me.
http/www.flippersandfins.net/flexibacter.htm

No thats not it. Look at the pictures. It just looks like their skin died, maybe from lack of O2, and is falling off. It was so evently spread amongst all my roselines that i highly doubt it was some sort of infection. Ill monitor with decreased CO2 levels and hope things get better . $20 fish are hard to lose

 

[WILDER]

I can't make much out in the pics.
When you try to enlarge the pics they don't load up.

What other fish do you have in the tank.

 

[Heligrin]

I can't make much out in the pics.
When you try to enlarge the pics they don't load up.

What other fish do you have in the tank.

Clown Loach
Queen Loach
Dwarf Loach
Pearl Gourami

Most of my other fish are much more sensitive to water parameters/susceptible to disease, which is why the absence of any of these symptoms on them is weird.

 

[WILDER]

Need to look at tank size and water stats.

Some fish types are more prone to certain deseases than others.

 

[Heligrin]

Need to look at tank size and water stats.

Some fish types are more prone to certain deseases than others.

55G (Did a water change sunday - i do weekly H20 changes)
78F
Ammonia 0
Nitrites 0
Dose NPK
Pressurized CO2
2 eheim filters

 

[WILDER]

How many of each fish do you have.

The symtoms you are describing point towards parasites, bacterial, bad water quality.
If there no parasite symtoms I would take the bacterial route.

As for C02 no nothing about it.