Help! Need To Cover The Filter!

[emilythestrange]

Need some advice today, brought fish last night 3 tetras n 8 guppies.
I looked for them all this morning and eventually spotted the last neon tetra........ STUCK in the filter.. he must of been there all night because he was dead when i switched the filter off.

How exactly should i cover it? and whats the best method.. to hold it on?

 

[WILDER]

Sure it was the filter that killed the neon.
How many gallons is the tank.
How many fish and which type.
Water stats in ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and ph.
How long did you climatise the fish for.
What was the ph of the store to your tank.

Usually you put some netting on the outflow tube with a rubber band.

 

[emilythestrange]

All looks fine really, did a fishless cycle, all the water stats were fine when i added my fish.

Do you think that i should add more tetras after i have tried to cover the filter.. the filter has two squares on either side with lines in to suck the water in (Fluval 1 plus)

I have a 27 UK Litre tank.

the 2 tetras look lonely

 

[WILDER]

What type of tetra are they?
I would leave it a week and keep testing your water stats first to see if the new fish havent sent the tank into a mini cycle.
If ammonia and nitrite are still 0 you can add new fish.
its best to issolate new fish to make sure you are not fetching desease into the tank.
Do you only have a fluval one filter as that's no good for your tank size.
Fluval one's are for small tanks, and hospital tanks.

 

[emilythestrange]

What type of tetra are they?
I would leave it a week and keep testing your water stats first to see if the new fish havent sent the tank into a mini cycle.
If ammonia and nitrite are still 0 you can add new fish.
its best to issolate new fish to make sure you are not fetching desease into the tank.
Do you only have a fluval one filter as that's no good for your tank size.
Fluval one's are for small tanks, and hospital tanks.

Im sure the filters right its for up to 45 Litres I think and mines only 27.
They are neon tetras
All the stats were fine before i added the fish. The ammonia is quickly handled and nitrIte was 0 and i reduced the nitrate to a safe level.

So what should i do to cover it?

They are all new and dont seem to have a disease. they were all from similuar tanks and fromt the same LFS

 

[WILDER]

Sorry read it wrong thought it was a 27 gallon tank.
Your tank fully stocked really with the eight guppys.
Neon tetra are small waste producers so you might just about get away with it.
I would keep an eye on your water stats for a few weeks to see if the filter can handle the load that already in.
Neon tetra need mature tanks of six months.
I would wait for now.
You really added to many fish to a fishless cycle tank you might go into a mini cycle.

http/freshaquarium.about.com/cs/beginner.../a/fishcalc.htm

 

[emilythestrange]

Sorry read it wrong thought it was a 27 gallon tank.
Your tank fully stocked really with the eight guppys.
Neon tetra are small waste producers so you might just about get away with it.
I would keep an eye on your water stats for a few weeks to see if the filter can handle the load that already in.
Neon tetra need mature tanks of six months.
I would wait for now.
You really added to many fish to a fishless cycle tank you might go into a mini cycle.

After the wait and adding ammonia, i thought it was right to fully stock the tank... and not get them at different times.

As for now i still need to find a way to cover the filter to prevent another fish getting stuck

 

[WILDER]

Just because the tanks cycled dosn't mean it will cope with adding 11 fish it could go into a mini cycle if there not enough benefical bacteria.
its best to add fish gradually.
Are the guppys wild caught do you know.
Won't keep guppys any longer if there wild caught they tend to have camallanous worms which is an internal parasite.
Get some netting or cuts some tights up and put it over the water flow part with a rubber band it will stop fish getting sucked into the filter.

 

[emilythestrange]

Just because the tanks cycled dosn't mean it will cope with adding 11 fish it could go into a mini cycle if there not enough benefical bacteria.
its best to add fish gradually.
Are the guppys wild caught do you know.
Won't keep guppys any longer if there wild caught they tend to have camallanous worms which is an internal parasite.
Get some netting or cuts some tights up and put it over the water flow part with a rubber band it will stop fish getting sucked into the filter.

Ok thanks will go out and get some.
They are too fancy and there was many in a tank.. they look as if they were bred specifically.

 

[WILDER]

Ok thats fine.
When you buy guppys make sure there not been wild caught as the only med available to kill camallanous worms is from a vet in the uk.
Signs of internal parasites are.
Long stringy white poo, or clear mucas poo.
Red worms prutruding from the anus.
Red inflamed anus to enlarged anus.
Being skinny or bloated.
Sunken in belly.
Sometimes bent spine.

 

[emilythestrange]

Ok thats fine.
When you buy guppys make sure there not been wild caught as the only med available to kill camallanous worms is from a vet in the uk.
Signs of internal parasites are.
Long stringy white poo, or clear mucas poo.
Red worms prutruding from the anus.
Red inflamed anus to enlarged anus.
Being skinny or bloated.
Sunken in belly.
Sometimes bent spine.

Yep none of that!

 

[WILDER]

Ok good luck.
Camallanus
Taken from this link.

[URL="http/www.fish-disease.net/diseases.htm"]http/www.fish-disease.net/diseases.htm[/URL]


Symptoms:

When the fish is stationary, deep red worms can be seen protruding from the anal pore. They are only visible when the fish is still because the worms retreat into the intestine at the fish’s slightest movement. Other signs may include an inflamed and enlarged anus. In severe infestations, the fish may become emaciated and spinal curvature may also occur.



Cause:

The parasitic worms Camallanus Cotti and Camallanus lacustris. These small, livebearing parasitic worms attach to the intestinal walls and rectum with pinchers. The worm’s grip is so tight that any attempts to remove it forcibly will rip away tissue from the intestinal wall. The worm’s pinching causes ischemia (reduced blood flow) to that part of the intestine. In time, the tissue to that part of the intestine will die, at which time the worm will migrate to another part of the intestine. This causes perforations throughout the intestine, which allows other pathogens to gain entry. If the fish is not treated, either the parasite or bacterial will kill the fish. Camallanus infestations occur most often in livebearing fish such as Guppies and Mollies, though infection is possible in all fish. Camallanus infestations are contagious. All fish, including those not yet showing visible symptoms, as well as the aquarium, should be treated.



Treatment:

Treat with Internal Parasite Guard, Pipzine, Disco-Worm, Trichlorfon or Fluke-Tabs as well as a medicated food to prevent a bacterial infection.
d luck.