Help- My Tank Is Dying Out.

[Blubble37]

Ok, it all started when my ramshorns died a few weeks back and the water went cloudy. Then a few days later after a few water changes and all the dead snails being removed, one of the fish developed a opaque cyst in his tail near to the base (from the other side a red ring with a dot in the middle was clearly visible) which a few days latewr fell off )(along with half of his tail). My mum found him at the surface of the tank last night as he didnt have the strength to swim anymore and sent him to sleep in the freezer with some salt water.

Now another one looks ill.

He is my favourite male Black goldfish and his symptoms are as follows.

His fins are all clamped and he seems to have a layer of slime on him which is clear-ish from the side and opaque from the front and above and he has been like this without any change for quite a while now.

I recently took the filter out and cleaned it down completely with zo flora as it was developing a kind of fungus on it, i also cleaned down the sides of the tank with a scrubbing brush as they were going the same way.

I am treating the tank for Fungus and Finrot and once complete (monday 20th) will treat it with anti slime and velvet.

I didnt get any pictures of the tailless one before he was put to sleep and he is now lying peacefully under my garden now.

Please help me.

Blubble37

 

[Kelly-Jo]

Without seeing any photos it is hard to say what it could be. However, I think you're doing the right thing by treating with anti-slime & fungus medication. If you have the facilities, seperate the goldfish into a fully cycled hospital tank for the time being so that you reduce the risk of affecting the other fish in the tank. For now, I would do a fairly large water change (50% would be good) as this may help a great deal and if not, it will not do any harm...so it's best to do one to be on the safe side.

 

[Blubble37]

For further info water parameters are

Temp-21/22C (Fan cooled)
P/H- 8.5 (borderline on ok)
Ammonia nh3/nh4-1.2 ppm (borderline again on max amount for water temp and P/H(2ppm))
Nitrite-1.5ppm (waaay to high)
Nitrate-75ppm

Will defo do a water change and will post back with results afterwards.

Could this be because i took my carbon and zeolite media and put another filter block in instead or would the other filter be spreading bacterially onto the other already (i cleaned them out yesterday in tank water and then gave them a huge dose of bacteria carrying liquid in a separate tank to get them going)

Post 90% water change-
Temp-19/20C (fan cooled)
P/H-just under 8.5 (I’d say around 8)
Ammonia-.1 (retested)
Nitrite-.1ppm
Nitrate-25/50ppm

Would it be an idea to test the tap water?

Here are the pictures of the poorly black fish.

Also I have a 12 volt brushless computer fan running off of a 10 volt power supply rated at 1.2 amps running through a 200 milliamp fuse (the fan is 150 milliamp) all connections are either shrink wrapped and soldered or spade connected and there is no chance that they will ever touch. Are there any problems with this being there?

I don’t know what I will do if I lose another one
Probably cry like a pathetic wimp again.
Am I too harsh on myself?

Blubble37

Straining to find something positive, i guess the filter is cleaner than i have ever seen it. ) i guess)

Blubble37
Depressed and paranoid.

 

[Blubble37]

Now the black one looks a little happier, bless his soul the little thing. Bless him to the pearly gates when his time comes.

Blubble37

Not so depressed now.

 

[Kelly-Jo]

You DEFINATELY need to do a a water change. Both ammonia and nitrite need to be at 0, anything above isn't good for your fish. Those readings are very high.

 

[Blubble37]

i tested my tapwater and got these results.

Ph-just a little under 8
Ammonia-0.1ppm
Nitrite-0.1ppm
Nitrates-50ppm

Anything strange about these at all?

 

[This Old Spouse]

i tested my tapwater and got these results.

Ph-just a little under 8
Ammonia-a.1ppm
Nitrite.1ppm
Nitrates 50ppm

Anything strange about these at all?

YES!!! Your ammonia and nitrites are killing your fish!! You need to do daily HUGE water changes (at least 80%) until they're down to zero.

"Could this be because i took my carbon and zeolite media and put another filter block in instead or would the other filter be spreading bacterially onto the other already (i cleaned them out yesterday in tank water and then gave them a huge dose of bacteria carrying liquid in a separate tank to get them going)"


Did I read correctly that you changed out your filter media entirely?

I think so, and if that's the case then you just put yourself into a fish-in cycle. Go to the beginner's resource center and read up on what to do with a fish-in cycle.

 

[ZoddyZod]

i tested my tapwater and got these results.

Ph-just a little under 8
Ammonia-a.1ppm
Nitrite.1ppm
Nitrates 50ppm

Anything strange about these at all?

is that 1ppm or 0.1ppm for the nitrite and ammonia? 1ppm is something to worry about, 0.1ppm is not. Basically these two levels should be as close to zero as possible - i.e. undetectable using a test kit.

Also, what test kit are you using?

 

[Blubble37]

ok, it was .1ppm and i am using an interpet tablet test kit (api master ordered as on last tablet now)

 

[ZoddyZod]

ok, it was .1ppm and i am using an interpet tablet test kit (api master ordered as on last tablet now)

you are placing a . before the 1ppm so I assume that means 0.1ppm?

I'm not at all familiar with the test kit you have, but it doesn't sound like it is a liquid based one?

 

[Blubble37]

i tested my tapwater and got these results.

Ph-just a little under 8
Ammonia-a.1ppm
Nitrite.1ppm
Nitrates 50ppm

Anything strange about these at all?

YES!!! Your ammonia and nitrites are killing your fish!! You need to do daily HUGE water changes (at least 80%) until they're down to zero.

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Did I read correctly that you changed out your filter media entirely?

I think so, and if that's the case then you just put yourself into a fish-in cycle. Go to the beginner's resource center and read up on what to do with a fish-in cycle.

No, i didnt change the lot, i took out the carbon and zeolite and left the bottom one in, noticed the stuff was just going straight through and put another filter foam block on top of it. So i added more foam media instead of taking it away. I also only washed it in tank water so i wouldnt kill off all the bacteria.

ok, it was .1ppm and i am using an interpet tablet test kit (api master ordered as on last tablet now)

you are placing a . before the 1ppm so I assume that means 0.1ppm?

I'm not at all familiar with the test kit you have, but it doesn't sound like it is a liquid based one?

yep 0.1ppm

no it isnt, the only liquid in it is the tank water you are testing.

i tested my tapwater and got these results.

Ph-just a little under 8
Ammonia-a.1ppm
Nitrite.1ppm
Nitrates 50ppm

Anything strange about these at all?

YES!!! Your ammonia and nitrites are killing your fish!! You need to do daily HUGE water changes (at least 80%) until they're down to zero.

I dont see how that would help when its the tapwater that i fill it with that was tested there anyway?

 

[Blubble37]

Just about to do a 90% water change before going off to family camp (minus the family) and then end their weeks course of finrot and fungus and start theit anti slime and velvet stuff.

Will test and post after.

 

[Blubble37]

Just a quick update on the black fish-

His dorsal fin looks as though it is stuck together with slime. Would it be safe for me to take him out of the water, gently lift his fin up and clean it with a cotton bud?

 

[ATK!!!]

Taking out the Zeolite probably didn't help. If you have this in a tank then a lot of ammonia builds up here, this means a lot of bacteria colonises this area in preference to the filter sponges. So you probably took out a large amount of your filter bacteria . Theres not much you can do now apart from hope that your remaining bacteria can cope.

Hope all goes well

 

[Blubble37]

oops >_<