Help! Guppy Looks In Pain >.>

[Cooper2085]

OK, i have had my tropical tank set up for 4 weeks, it has mature filter media and looks to be fully cycled, ammonia is at 0 ect ect.

Yesterday i had 3 dead neons, 2 looks like they had ben attacked 1 looked like had been eaten Now when i got home today my red male Guppy has had his tail ripped and looks to be in serious pain (Panting at the bottom of the tank, tilting on its side).

The guppys were only added 3 days ago, and there is a gold male (2 male, 1 red 1 gold, 3 female) im wondering if he did this?

My tank has-

3 Neon Tetras
6 Harlequin Tetras
5 Penguin tetras (about 1" with a black stipe down them, they glow when the lights been on!)
3 Female guppies
2 Male guppies

Its a 126l Tank, i would show pics but photobucket is down.

HELP!

 

[Cooper2085]

Bump, please help me >.<

Thats the fish, it looks really bad, should i put it out of its misery?

This may be the culprit...

 

[shang hi]

it is hard to say who did it. but i would sugest putting him in hospital tank with some mature media, no gravel ect,
and treating with some melafix from API, this stuff works wonders with hurt or damaged fish and its worth a try.
if you hospitilise him and after a few days he has made no improvement then seak further action.

 

[Cooper2085]

The problem is im poor and quite new to this, and dont have a spare tank.

This is the tank they are in:

 

[shang hi]

then the other best bet is to medicate the whole tank with Melafix (although it does get quite costly with all the meds used), but if you have to do this then remove the active carbon from the filter before medicating other wise all the medications are removed from the water making them useless.

i have an idea though, to stop the guppy getting attacked then buy a cheep $1 net breeder and use that to stop the guppy getting attacked whilst being treated.

However i would recomend saving up for a hospital tank, what you will need is this:
Cheep 10 gallon tank (about £10)
Cheep Air pump (£5)
Air powered filter (£3-5)
Heater (£10-15)
Fake cave (A plant pot will do) (a few pence)

Or buy a hospital tank kit which will cost about $20 (roughly £14) but you may have to shop around to get a good deal.

 

[Cooper2085]

Ok thanks, i guess il just wait it out and see what happens then while i wait for 25th payday >.>

Just a shame because it was a very nice fish, now its hiding in the hanging plant on the right handside

 

[shang hi]

just seen the picture, its nicly aquascaped by the way, and i like the sponge-bob-square-pants.
i do however think you have some emperor tetras in their.

Scientific Name: Nematobrycon palmeri
Common Name: Emperor Tetra
Family: Characidae
Origin: South America
Size: 2 inches

if im wrong then please correct me

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anywho its mainly up to you about what you do, i still recomend a hospital tank (but that comes down to money in the long run)

 

[Cooper2085]

I could have sworn he said Penguin tetras.... Are they not good community fish?

 

[shang hi]

just cheaking something here. do the edges of the fins look raged or have white patches/outline to them (before he was attacked, if he was) because it might be finrot is he did have white outlines to his fins and slightle taged edges.
he may of been attacked aswell because a fish will happily attack and kill another fish who is ill (and some times eat them )

anyway melafix treates bacterial finrot so if you do treat with melafix then it will sort out finrot (if thats what it is), but i do think he was attacked

 

[Cooper2085]

Yesterday he was fine, his tail was full and busy like the golden guppy. This morning i noticed a small tear in the tail and it was hidden under a filter. Tonight it looks like its been attacked by 20 people >.< Not noticed any symptoms of finrot at all in any of the fish

 

[shang hi]

I could have sworn he said Penguin tetras.... Are they not good community fish?

common mistake for a LFS to make, mine did that once and i corected them. good community fish.

Feeding: Not very picky, they will take most of your frozen and freeze dried foods, flakes and various small live foods like worms and mosquito larvae. As with most fish the more varied the diet the better the fishes health.

Temperament: Shy and peaceful, though males get territorial when breeding. They may chase each other quite a bit but with no injuries.

Compatibility: Good community fish, best kept in small schools of around five, and with other tank mates with similar temperament and water condition needs.

Water Type: Fresh, temp 74*F to 81*F, pH 5.0 to 8.0, dH 5.0 to 19.0

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Yesterday he was fine, his tail was full and busy like the golden guppy. This morning i noticed a small tear in the tail and it was hidden under a filter. Tonight it looks like its been attacked by 20 people >.< Not noticed any symptoms of finrot at all in any of the fish

sounds to fast for finrot then and most likle an attack. keep a close eye on him and the other fish, and just to humor me what are your water stats. to help rule out any water problems like ammonia burns.

Ammonia:
Nitrite:
Nitrate:
PH:
GH:
KH:

EDIT:i like the new double posting stoper (adds it straight to the previos post if you try), hence why it says "new post"in the middle so you can see where a new post was started.

 

[Cooper2085]

Ok so really i need to get some meds and separate it in a breeding net until either A: It dies B: It gets better C: I can afford a small tank.

Il keep my eye on it, if it dies il let you know.

 

[shang hi]

i would say thats your best bet.
good luck with Mr Guppy, Get Well Soon!

 

[Cooper2085]

R.I.P mister fishy.

Basically it was hidden in the hanging plants, then the other fish started stalking it, it moved into the bubble stream but couldnt swim. I found him about 10 minutes later lying on the left rock in the red plants, barely breathing being attacked by other "Peacefull Comunity Fish". This is my first expirience with loosing a fish like this and it sucked. I checked the ammonia it was a little higher than usual, about 0.2 so i did a 30% water change. I figure the ammonia level was due to the dead neons the day before.

 

[WILDER]

White edging to a tail is finrot.
You can bet on your life if a guppy has finrot something else is going on as bacterial finrot can be a secondary infection.