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HatchetMan

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Hi all,
I poked around a lot of fish forum sites before choosing this one.  It seems like a great community with a lot of knowledge, so I'm looking forward to learning a lot.  There's nothing like first-hand info from actual aquarists.
 
I got into fish keeping accidentally which seems to be more common than I realized.  Our next-door neighbors' kids grew up and left home and their parents weren't interested in maintaining their 30 gallon freshwater tank on their own, so they asked if we'd want it.  My wife and kids were more interested than I was, so we found ourselves with an aquarium.  Guess who got the job of maintaining it?  I didn't know anything at the time and basically did the minimum as far as water changes, vacuuming gravel, and changing filters.  The assortment of tetras and barbs wasn't very interesting to me and even my family gradually watched the fish less and less.  I continued to maintain the tank and we got some extra fish along the way as the rather old original inhabitants went to fish heaven one by one.  That was about five years ago.
 
A couple months ago, the last of the original inhabitants finally bid us adieu and we were left with two kribensis, two yo-yo loaches, a pleco, and a boatload of snails.  The pleco is spotted and I'm not sure of the species, but I was assured it would only grow to a few inches long.  My plan at the time was to allow them all to live out their days, then sell the tank, and exit the hobby as gracefully as possible.  Fortunately, our 11-year-old son had other ideas.
 
About a month ago, he kept bugging me to go to the aquarium store and get "a couple more fish".  He seemed a lot more excited than usual, so I decided to delay my exit strategy and take him to look at some fish.  We came home with a blue dwarf gourami and a third yo-yo loach.  I wanted to eradicate the snails once and for all.  The war on snails did end within a week and the gourami was a lot more interesting to watch than our other fish.  Not long after that we went back and got a red dwarf gourami, a small catfish (assured it would stay small), and three silver hatchetfish.  The hatchets were surprisingly entertaining and strange-looking and I found myself watching them and the other fish every night.  So at that point, I was finally hooked.  I read more about hatchets and decided we should get four more as their stress level is reduced in larger schools.  Now they're even more fun to watch.  So we have the following...
  • 7 silver hatchets
  • 3 yo-yo loaches
  • 2 dwarf gouramis
  • 2 kribensis
  • 1 catfish (not sure of species)
  • 1 pleco (also not sure of species)
With a renewed interest in the tank, I started testing the water more frequently and noticed right away that the increased bio-load caused a jump in nitrate levels.  After all, we had gone from 5 fish to 16 in a matter of weeks, though the hatchets are tiny.  I'm doing water changes every couple of days until the nitrate levels get back down to near-zero and I'm aggressively vacuuming the rather dirty gravel.  I also determined that our plastic heater had stopped working at some point and replaced that with a glass one.  I slowly increased the tank temp from about 69 to 75 over a couple of weeks.  The fish have all perked up noticeably.  I also got an AquaClear 50 that I'll be running alongside our ancient Marineland 350 bio-wheel until I run out of filters for the Marineland (no sense wasting those).  Then it'll be retired and replaced by a second AquaClear 50 as the first one should be well established at that point.
 
So now I watch the fish tank for at least 30 minutes every day, read voraciously on every related topic, and entertain my wife with riveting discussions of water chemistry and fish behavior.  Fortunately, she really enjoys the fish too and is on board with my plan to get a second tank in the next few months.  This one will be larger (60-75 gallons) and stocked with Lake Malawi cichlids.  I was actually a Peace Corps Volunteer in Malawi back in the late 90's, so the lake has special significance to me and I love the idea of recreating a small piece of it in our home.
 
And that long-winded introduction brings us to today.  I'm continuing to work on the water chemistry and some improvements to the aqua-scaping.  The fish mostly get along, though the catfish and one of the kribensis are mildly territorial.  Nothing too concerning and I haven't seen any nipped fins so I think it's a pretty stable community.
 
I'm looking forward to growing in the hobby (obsession?) and learning a lot from all of you.  Happy to be here!
 
-Patrick
 
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Do you have any pics you would like to share?  I am sure some of the members can help identify the catfish and pleco.
 
hello and 
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 and I hope you enjoy your time here :D
 
I've just read through your introduction to fish keeping and I just wanted to point something out to you. You mention about Nitrate ... Nitrate is the final stage of the cycling process and Nitrate will (and should) be present in the aquarium. If you have live plants it is especially important as it will provide food for the plants. There is no need to get Nitrate to zero - in fact I doubtful you ever will as Nitrate is present in tap water! Provided it is keep reasonably low then it's fine to have a Nitrate reading. By low, what I mean is below 40-60ppm. Some guys on here prefer to keep it below 20ppm but personally I can see nothing wrong with a reading of 30ppm. I think my own tank runs at around 30-40ppm and I find that normal. We have all learned our craft (for want of a better word) by slightly different means and so we have some differences of opinion on Nitrate but all will agree that zero can not be acheived and it's pointless trying - there you go, I just saved you from some water changes 
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Now you have added to your stock keep a close eye on your Ammonia and Nitrite as those two are the bad guys. Nitrate is a good guy. Hope that makes sense :)
 
BiggTexx said:
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 to TFF!
 
Do you have any pics you would like to share?  I am sure some of the members can help identify the catfish and pleco.
 
I'll get some pics soon.  Aquarium photography will be another fun aspect of this and a challenge to undertake with my DSLR.  A bit of a departure from people, landscapes, and artsy stuff.  I also need to get a good shot of some of the hatchets for my avatar.  :)
Akasha72 said:
hello and 
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 and I hope you enjoy your time here
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I've just read through your introduction to fish keeping and I just wanted to point something out to you. You mention about Nitrate ... Nitrate is the final stage of the cycling process and Nitrate will (and should) be present in the aquarium. If you have live plants it is especially important as it will provide food for the plants. There is no need to get Nitrate to zero - in fact I doubtful you ever will as Nitrate is present in tap water! Provided it is keep reasonably low then it's fine to have a Nitrate reading. By low, what I mean is below 40-60ppm. Some guys on here prefer to keep it below 20ppm but personally I can see nothing wrong with a reading of 30ppm. I think my own tank runs at around 30-40ppm and I find that normal. We have all learned our craft (for want of a better word) by slightly different means and so we have some differences of opinion on Nitrate but all will agree that zero can not be acheived and it's pointless trying - there you go, I just saved you from some water changes 
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Now you have added to your stock keep a close eye on your Ammonia and Nitrite as those two are the bad guys. Nitrate is a good guy. Hope that makes sense
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That's a very good point about acceptable nitrate levels.  I do have a few live plants, but I wasn't educated about the lighting needs so they're a little ragged.  I'll probably go the faux route soon.  I am ashamed to say the nitrate level spiked around 150, but it's coming down steadily with all the water changes.  I'll shoot for 30-40 as that sounds reasonable.
 
I got an ammonia gauge that attaches to the inside of the tank with a suction cup and I look at that every day.  And my test strips measure hardness, pH, nitrite, and nitrate.  The hardness is a little high, but pH is around 6.5 and nitrites are near zero.  So I'll get the nitrates down and take some steps to soften the water.  The water could be a little clearer, but I'm sure my increased filtration will take care of that.  I use a dechlorinator on the tap water and make sure it's the same temperature before pouring it into the tank, so I don't worry about chlorine levels at all.  I think I have my bases covered... mostly anyway.  :)
 
Thanks for the tips!
 
hi again. Two things from your reply that I can see I can advise you on... firstly arm yourself with a liquid drop test kit not the strips - the strips are really inaccurate. API do a good all round kit (Ph, Ammonia, Nitrite and Nitrate) and that seems to be available in all countries. And the 2nd thing would be 'taking steps to soften the water'. I would advise against adding chemical solutions. You can use things like bogwood to soften the water but it's better to stock your tank with fish that like the water you have.
 
Where I live, my water is very soft and acidic and so I've stocked with fish from South America - SA cichlids, tetra's and cories - all these fish live naturally in soft acidic water and so like what I have coming from the tap.
 
I always suggest to beginners that they follow the same idea. If your water is hard then go with hard water fish. You'll save yourself a lot of heartache in the long run :) 
 

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